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Old 12-01-2009, 02:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Fuggin Viper-2 Goes BIG in Sweden

Thanks to MTL Customs in Sweden, the Fuggin Viper-2 is a hit. The European Fury hit 60.87hp and 106.15 Newton meters of torque with Fuggin Viper-2.

Here a link to one of Swedens biggest biker Magazines showing the first Fury's delivered in Sweden and Fuggin Viper-2 are there.Honda VT1300CX Fury 2010 : PROVKÖRD

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Old 12-01-2009, 04:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Have you guys had any time to experment with the Viper X-XL I have been reading about?
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks to MLT Customs in Sweden, the Fuggin Viper-2 is a hit. The European Fury hit 60.87hp and 106.15 Newton meters of torque with Fuggin Viper-2.

Here a link to one of Swedens biggest biker Magazines showing the first Fury's delivered in Sweden and Fuggin Viper-2 are there.Honda VT1300CX Fury 2010 : PROVKÖRD
With just the Viper-2 pipes only? or did they also install your fuel controller?

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Old 12-01-2009, 04:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Have you guys had any time to experment with the Viper X-XL I have been reading about?
We are currently bending pipe for the Viper X-XL. We should have pictures of the proto-type next week.

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With just the Viper-2 pipes only? or did they also install your fuel controller?
In this case they used a power commander fuel controller. The Honda dealer only sells this manfacturer for the time being. They will be selling our Euro controller in the future. The European emissions are much hard to qualifiy for than the US. Also the Fury in Europe has O2 sensors in the pipes so we are looking at controller that will read the O2 for adjustments.

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We are currently bending pipe for the Viper X-XL. We should have pictures of the proto-type next week.

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That's great Doug! I'm glad to see your working on the project. In the future, I think taking a poll on new ideas you might have is a good thing. It gives us owners a chance to talk and debate on your ideas, mean while it gives you a chance to see potential sales. Thanks again, I like all your products and special thanks for helping make the Fury Forums possible.

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Thanks to MTL Customs in Sweden, the Fuggin Viper-2 is a hit. The European Fury hit 60.87hp and 106.15 Newton meters of torque with Fuggin Viper-2.

Here a link to one of Swedens biggest biker Magazines showing the first Fury's delivered in Sweden and Fuggin Viper-2 are there.Honda VT1300CX Fury 2010 : PROVKÖRD
Great! A significant increase in both torque and horsepower. But I'm troubled that both parameters drop off so dramatically at around 3500 RPM. Why? Is the mass-flow above that RPM simply overwhelming the capacity of the pipe, or are we seeing the effect of some weird plugging pulses generated by the baffling, or what??? I don't understand.

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Great! A significant increase in both torque and horsepower. But I'm troubled that both parameters drop off so dramatically at around 3500 RPM. Why? Is the mass-flow above that RPM simply overwhelming the capacity of the pipe, or are we seeing the effect of some weird plugging pulses generated by the baffling, or what??? I don't understand.

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If you will notice in the Dyno test posted in the article, the stock HP results drop off at about 3.3 vs 3.5. This has nothing to do with the capacity of the pipe, or some weird plugging pulses generated by the baffling. It is related to the Honda ECU and controlling the timing at RPM. Until the code for the Honda ECU become available we won’t be able to know what is happening.

The Viper-2 exhaust - This design has been used on much larger motors, both Carbureted and EFI with better results. The problem is not with the exhaust, it with the capability of the motor and the adjustments that can be made. The Honda 1300 motor design is only going to get about 64 HP with any changes that are bolt on. The only way you are going to more is with a cam change and an ECU change.

Also note that the torque numbers on this Dyno are in Newton Meters.

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If you will notice in the Dyno test posted in the article, the stock HP results drop off at about 3.3 vs 3.5. This has nothing to do with the capacity of the pipe, or some weird plugging pulses generated by the baffling. It is related to the Honda ECU and controlling the timing at RPM. Until the code for the Honda ECU become available we won’t be able to know what is happening.

The Viper-2 exhaust - This design has been used on much larger motors, both Carbureted and EFI with better results. The problem is not with the exhaust, it with the capability of the motor and the adjustments that can be made. The Honda 1300 motor design is only going to get about 64 HP with any changes that are bolt on. The only way you are going to more is with a cam change and an ECU change.

Also note that the torque numbers on this Dyno are in Newton Meters.

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Thanks for the enlightenment, Doug. It seems just about the time I think that I'm gaining some insight, someone opens another door, then it's back to the dark ages! What's it take to "read-out" an ECU? Is it like reading-out an EPROM?

Let's see now, what did I do with that old flat-slide Lake Injector...............

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That's pretty cool! Congratulations! Nice to see what the ABS brakes look like on the Fury also! I just wish I could read the article
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