New Honda 1300s

[XxPatman77]

Originally Posted by no_fury

totally agree but 9 times out of 10...

Adapter "$" + HD Part "$$" = $$$ & metric part = $$$$$

reason being that Harley parts are produced in huge quantities, metric parts are not.

Why aren't there more metric, aftermarket parts?? There are more metric bikes on the roads then Harley by it self.

[no_fury]

Originally Posted by XxPatman77

Why aren't there more metric, aftermarket parts?? There are more metric bikes on the roads then Harley by it self.

10x more Harley cutomizers than metric

Go to the next major V-Twin bike show in your area and you'll see what I mean.

[XxPatman77]

Originally Posted by no_fury

10x more Harley cutomizers than metric

Go to the next major V-Twin bike show in your area and you'll see what I mean.

Well now I see why it cost $280 far a freakin crome intake adapter for the Fury. I think the aftermarket manufactures for metrics know there's more customizers for Harley, so they jack our @sses with these crazy prices.

[no_fury]

Originally Posted by XxPatman77

Well now I see why it cost $280 far a freakin crome intake adapter for the Fury. I think the aftermarket manufactures for metrics know there's more customizers for Harley, so they jack our @sses with these crazy prices.

Well to their defense, they need to make a profit to stay in business. I don't mind the crazy prices, the other option of no parts at all is worst. I tell people all the time, Hondas are cheap but parts are damn $$$. And likewise Hareys are expensive but aftermarket parts are damn cheap.

[XxPatman77]

Originally Posted by no_fury

Well to their defense, they need to make a profit to stay in business. I don't mind the crazy prices, the other option of no parts at all is worst. I tell people all the time, Hondas are cheap but parts are damn $$$. And likewise Hareys are expensive but aftermarket parts are damn cheap.

I'm willing to bet there's plenty of profits being made. That's the whole idea, right? Don't let the metric, aftermarket manufactures act like they went through a lot to produce this product, just so they could give it to us at cost. Profit is the name of the game! Anyone who doesn't mind paying $$$$ for a plastic molded intake adapter has to much money, so it doesn't matter. If there were a lot of compitition making aftermarket products for metrics, The price would go down, "And Yes", still making a profit.

[no_fury]

Originally Posted by XxPatman77

I'm willing to bet there's plenty of profits being made. That's the whole idea, right? Don't let the metric, aftermarket manufactures act like they went through a lot to produce this product, just so they could give it to us at cost. Profit is the name of the game! Anyone who doesn't mind paying $$$$ for a plastic molded intake adapter has to much money, so it doesn't matter. If there were a lot of compitition making aftermarket products for metrics, The price would go down, "And Yes", still making a profit.

Problem is there isn't enough demand to drive competition up. Case in point, look how long the VTX1300 has been out and how many are on the road. Yet there is only one bike specific air intake for it that does not convert a Harley intake and it cost $600. Let's give L&M and Accutronics have a say.

[XxPatman77]

Originally Posted by no_fury

Problem is there isn't enough demand to drive competition up. Case in point, look how long the VTX1300 has been out and how many are on the road. Yet there is only one bike specific air intake for it that does not convert a Harley intake and it cost $600. Let's give L&M and Accutronics have a say.

So your saying if there were more compitition out there, it would cost less to produce the product, "No"! It still would cost the same, yet they would drop the price a little so the buyers don't go to the next guy. Point in hand, the few that do produce metric parts make a great profit, because where else you gonna go, "Right"! If 20 other manufactures for metric parts poped up selling intake adapters, Low and Mean would slash there prices down to compete, "Still making profit".

[no_fury]

Originally Posted by XxPatman77

So your saying if there were more compitition out there, it would cost less to produce the product, "No"! It still would cost the same, yet they would drop the price a little so the buyers don't go to the next guy. Point in hand, the few that do produce metric parts make a great profit, because where else you gonna go, "Right"! If 20 other manufactures for metric parts poped up selling intake adapters, Low and Mean would slash there prices down to compete, "Still making profit".

Production costs are one thing, but there are operating costs to consider. Operating costs is the number one reason why business go under. Someone has to pay the rent, advertising, and still have money left over to pay themselves so they can eat.

Consider this, if two vendors (one metric the other standard) could produce two similar products for $50 each and both had $2k in monthly operating costs. Now if the demand for the metric part was only 20 units a month they would have to price the product at $150 just to break even. Now look at the Harley supplier, demand for their product is 100 units a month. They can price their product at $100 and still turn a $3,000 Profit. It's one thing if your doing it in your basement in your free time but it's another when your doing it full-time and your only source of income.

[XxPatman77]

Originally Posted by no_fury

Production costs are one thing, but there are operating costs to consider. Operating costs is the number one reason why business go under. Someone has to pay the rent, advertising, and still have money left over to pay themselves so they can eat.

Consider this, if two vendors (one metric the other standard) could produce two similar products for $50 each and both had $2k in monthly operating costs. Now if the demand for the metric part was only 20 units a month they would have to price the product at $150 just to break even. Now look at the Harley supplier, demand for their product is 100 units a month. They can price their product at $100 and still turn a $3,000 Profit.

True.. I agree and that makes perfect sence, "But"! I find it hard to believe that not many peeps are fixing up there metric bikes. Take the Fury for example, the bike just came out, already people are quick to spend multi thousands on aftermarket parts, it's like they can't come out with stuff fast enough. So the demand is out there! People are shaking there wallets at the aftermarket metric manufactures and as soon as it's available, "Everybody on the forum is showing it off". That's just the Fury for example! What about VTX's and all the others? There's def a demand, just a shortage of manufactured, that's why I believe the prices are sky high...

[no_fury]

Originally Posted by XxPatman77

True.. I agree and that makes perfect sence, "But"! I find it hard to believe that not many peeps are fixing up there metric bikes. Take the Fury for example, the bike just came out, already people are quick to spend multi thousands on aftermarket parts, it's like they can't come out with stuff fast enough. So the demand is out there! People are shaking there wallets at the aftermarket metric manufactures and as soon as it's available, "Everybody on the forum is showing it off". That's just the Fury for example! What about VTX's and all the others? There's def a demand, just a shortage of manufactured, that's why I believe the prices are sky high...

Very true!!! That's why I wanted L&M's take on it since they are a manufacturer who specializes solely in Metric parts.