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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 03-08-2019, 05:55 PM Thread Starter
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Edit Post - Save does not work without Go Advanced

When I try to edit one of my posts I can't Save it; a spinner spins but that's it.


I have to Go Advanced and then Save Changes. That works about 50% of the time, otherwise I have to hit it twice (usually works) or Preview then Save Changes.




Save has the little spinner, that's it.





Have to hit Go Advanced



Now hit Save Changes



Instead of saving a garbled screen comes up.
Have to hit Save Changes again.


Trying this again, Save does not work.


Hit Go Advanced





Odd, but I got a garbled screen again, usually it would save fine, although it is hit-or-miss. Save Changes again worked and the changes saved.
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The whole site has really gone down the tube. @Administrator

I don't really expect a fix or even a response from @Administrator at this point I'm just trying to aggravate them... lol


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Generally, overhead is high and profit low in running websites, especially ones supporting user-driven content. Staff is spread thin and fix the easiest problems impacting the revenue stream to justify their time and employment--it takes a ton of ads to pay hosting fees, more to support a salary.

Since there's not a lot of users here there's not a lot of staff. If staff isn't responsive users leave, causing fewer ad impressions resulting in less money to support staff, meaning fewer issues getting resolved, more users leave, and it's a circle of death. Fighting with staff aggravates the problem and eventually leads to the site being terminated.

Think of this: We generate content for free, for our own consumption (as a whole). There are more readers that don't contribute than contributors, due to the cost of contribution (time). Readers generate ad revenue to pay the hosting bills, but don't generate content to keep the site alive, shifting the burdon onto the few. If readers start complaining unconstructively fewer people contribute and the site degrades to the point of where most members take cheap shots at everyone, new members become rare, and eventually the site dies and all user-driven content is lost.

From past experiance we're most likely near the point of death. Taxes continue to go up, driving hosting fees up and available contribution time down. Site owners have to cut costs, eventually selling off to big corporations that can distribute expenses and experience across hundreds of sites, expenses continue to rise so support decreases.

We saw this with the Fury of The Month contests. The original builds were numerous and awesome, now they're rare. People don't have the time/money to do much but bolt on a few parts. We don't even have the contests any more due to lack of contributions and difficulty in managing user content.

Let's work with the staff. Anything else hastens our own demise.
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Generally, overhead is high and profit low in running websites, especially ones supporting user-driven content. Staff is spread thin and fix the easiest problems impacting the revenue stream to justify their time and employment--it takes a ton of ads to pay hosting fees, more to support a salary.

Since there's not a lot of users here there's not a lot of staff. If staff isn't responsive users leave, causing fewer ad impressions resulting in less money to support staff, meaning fewer issues getting resolved, more users leave, and it's a circle of death. Fighting with staff aggravates the problem and eventually leads to the site being terminated.

Think of this: We generate content for free, for our own consumption (as a whole). There are more readers that don't contribute than contributors, due to the cost of contribution (time). Readers generate ad revenue to pay the hosting bills, but don't generate content to keep the site alive, shifting the burdon onto the few. If readers start complaining unconstructively fewer people contribute and the site degrades to the point of where most members take cheap shots at everyone, new members become rare, and eventually the site dies and all user-driven content is lost.

From past experiance we're most likely near the point of death. Taxes continue to go up, driving hosting fees up and available contribution time down. Site owners have to cut costs, eventually selling off to big corporations that can distribute expenses and experience across hundreds of sites, expenses continue to rise so support decreases.

We saw this with the Fury of The Month contests. The original builds were numerous and awesome, now they're rare. People don't have the time/money to do much but bolt on a few parts. We don't even have the contests any more due to lack of contributions and difficulty in managing user content.

Let's work with the staff. Anything else hastens our own demise.
I was trying to work with them.... they stopped responding to (read ignore) me.
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@WI_Hedgehog Do you get this just on mobile, or does it happen when you're using a computer as well? Can you let me know the browser you're using? I'm trying to recreate it on my end.

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@WI_Hedgehog Do you get this just on mobile, or does it happen when you're using a computer as well? Can you let me know the browser you're using? I'm trying to recreate it on my end.

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It only happens on mobile. Because I'm not on WiFi and there are SO many ads I use the browser app:

Adblock Browser
1.4.0.20180514193523


(note I do try to contribute in-depth articles to compensate for the lack of ad revenue, not trying to be a freeloader)

Trying with mobile Chrome 44.0.2403.633
Trying desktop Firefox.

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Hello there,

Can you see if there are any improvements if you turn that off?
Usually, blockers would hinder browsing experience.
Let me know if this is still an issue.

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Chrome & FireFox work, AdBlock does not when using Edit but does work when switching to Go Advanced, so there's something up with the code that save works under Go Advanced but not under Edit.


EDIT: Something is up. After creating the above post I hit Post Quick Reply on Desktop FireFox and the commit died it died, screenshot in image reply1. FireFox is up to date as in reply2. Note that all this time of screen-shotting and saving the images the post did not complete. Hit again and it had been sent in reply1, but had hung in the Post window, as shown in went reply3 (and refreshing the thread).
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you running anything on firefox? for some reason on firefox the text box looks different than chrome.

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Not sure what's going on but here is my quick reply screen shot.

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