Hello all, I've done some searching, some researching and a little bit more searching haha. The question and dilemma i am faced with is what rise i will need on my new bars. I have made mock ups with pvc, done the broomstick / level / measure trick I've gotten as much info as i can vis youtube, here, a few dealerships that had some furys with apes. Which they barely know the size because they re just there to sell and not describe bars to a guy that they dont think is a potential customer. Haha Anyways, i am looking at the FMB Choppers bars but not the ones that already have the bracket for the speedo I plan to either relocate it or possibly go with a different speedometer maybe like a motogadget mini or something of that nature so basically it would be the bars without the middle bracket. I will have these on 1.5" risers or atleast thats my plan unless i here from you guys about another size riser. I am 6 ft 250 and I want the bars about shoulder height I don't want them like way up there I don't want them too low to where I regret ordering them and have to send it back. I guess the only issue is if I order the bars without them middle bar and have them make them to fit a fury I don't know that I'll be able to return those as easily as if I was to order the wrong size on the bars that do have the bracket cause those could be resold these are the bars that arent specified for the fury so he will make them to where they will fit and knurl them correctly so i guess you can call it a customizing job. I don't know that he'd be able to resell them so I don't know that he would take them back. I want to make sure and get this height situation figured out before I order. Any info or input you guys can throw my way would be greatly appreciated. Everytime I think 14" then I see 12" that I really like, but then I made some 12" pvc mock-ups and I feel like they're a little too short so please let me know what you guys think. What you got? How tall are you? Hows the riding position and are they shoulder height or lower/ higher? Also misregard any typos, I'm doing this from my talk-to-text on my phone while working in my shed on taking off my other bars hahaha Thanks in advance.