[SRT10-Dog]

Hi all,

The wife and I went out looking over the weekend and a gorgeous blue Fury caught HER eye. I had saw the blue and black one down at the end of the row but did not even know they were Hondas, I had no idea Honda made something like this! Well she told me to check it out and well, we both love it.

Now after coming down from the initial high, I started to read up on it. The one thing I like very much about my last bike (FJ1200) was the ABS. I am pleased to see that the Fury also has this option, but can anyone tell me why in the world you can only get a Fury ABS in black?

This actually might be a deal breaker for me, or at least have me wait until the blue becomes an option on the ABS model.

Thoughts / comments?

Also one other thing which was a nit for me and was looking for real life feedback is the air cleaner cover sticking out so far. I didn't have a chance to take one out for a ride yet (it was raining) but while sitting on it, it seamed to me that my right leg would end up rubbing on the cleaner cover. Does this happen or do you just start to develop bad riding posture...

Cheers!

 

[LesterDiamond]

Well, if you can't wait, I know that they have the blue ABS models in Australia and Europe.

 

[WildBill]

dont know actually, why I bought Blue,,,havent seen an ABS model other then a picture

 

[imwright1985]

Hi all,

The wife and I went out looking over the weekend and a gorgeous blue Fury caught HER eye. I had saw the blue and black one down at the end of the row but did not even know they were Hondas, I had no idea Honda made something like this! Well she told me to check it out and well, we both love it.

Now after coming down from the initial high, I started to read up on it. The one thing I like very much about my last bike (FJ1200) was the ABS. I am pleased to see that the Fury also has this option, but can anyone tell me why in the world you can only get a Fury ABS in black?

This actually might be a deal breaker for me, or at least have me wait until the blue becomes an option on the ABS model.

Thoughts / comments?

Also one other thing which was a nit for me and was looking for real life feedback is the air cleaner cover sticking out so far. I didn't have a chance to take one out for a ride yet (it was raining) but while sitting on it, it seamed to me that my right leg would end up rubbing on the cleaner cover. Does this happen or do you just start to develop bad riding posture...

Cheers!

They have Blue ABS in europe and Australia. Dont know when it will be stateside, I have never had ABS on a bike, but honestly on a bike this light Dont see it being a massive help and i see it as more parts to potentially go bad. The aircleaner sticks out a bit but what bugs me is different(water blows off that in the rain right onto my crotch) but there are options and they open up like crazy with the accutronics or Low and Mean intake adapter. I think with extended forward controls it will cause my legs to shift to where intake is no longer in the way though and possibly with swaping the intake it will free up more room on the right side too. I kinda grew more tollerant of the stock intake sitting against my knee but know it annoyed me a little when i would just start riding it and for the first like 2 weeks of owning it.

 

[SRT10-Dog]

They have Blue ABS in europe and Australia. Dont know when it will be stateside, I have never had ABS on a bike, but honestly on a bike this light Dont see it being a massive help and i see it as more parts to potentially go bad. The aircleaner sticks out a bit but what bugs me is different(water blows off that in the rain right onto my crotch) but there are options and they open up like crazy with the accutronics or Low and Mean intake adapter. I think with extended forward controls it will cause my legs to shift to where intake is no longer in the way though and possibly with swaping the intake it will free up more room on the right side too. I kinda grew more tollerant of the stock intake sitting against my knee but know it annoyed me a little when i would just start riding it and for the first like 2 weeks of owning it.

Well my FJ was probably a good 100lbs LIGHTER than the Fury and I can tell you first hand, weight has NOTHING to do with the advantages of having ABS. If you ever get into a hard (unintentional) breaking situation in less then ideal conditions, (cornering with gravel / cleg, damp, etc...) ABS is worth its weight in gold!

Can you tell me more about the other air intake options please?

Now since they see the ABS in blue in other markets, that makes it even more of a mystery as to when in the world we could not get a blue with ABS in the states.... I might as the dealer to inquire with the factory and or if they could add it after market.

Thanks guys...

Cheers!

 

[imwright1985]

they may be able to special order it in blue. I dont see why it would be much of an issue, so i would check that out. The Intake adapter allows most of the harley intakes to fit, Spike intakes, Kuryakyn Hyperchargers, Baron Big Air, S&S intakes. There are a few threads on it through the board in the performance section.

Some intake stuff is:
CobraUSA | Honda, VTX1300CX Fury&product_name=PowrFlo Air Intake System
S&S Cycle - S&S Teardrop Air Cleaner Kit For Honda Fury!
LowandMean: Honda Fury "Spike" Intake adapter
I guess my feelings on ABS are since i havent really had to use it on the one bike i rode with ABS, and grew up riding dirtbikes im kinda used to getting thrown around a bit.

 

[Diesel]

Well my FJ was probably a good 100lbs LIGHTER than the Fury and I can tell you first hand, weight has NOTHING to do with the advantages of having ABS. If you ever get into a hard (unintentional) breaking situation in less then ideal conditions, (cornering with gravel / cleg, damp, etc...) ABS is worth its weight in gold!

Can you tell me more about the other air intake options please?

Now since they see the ABS in blue in other markets, that makes it even more of a mystery as to when in the world we could not get a blue with ABS in the states.... I might as the dealer to inquire with the factory and or if they could add it after market.

Thanks guys...

Cheers!

ABS will absolutely not help on gravel - straight line or corner.
It doesn't even help on cars.

 

[imwright1985]

ABS will absolutely not help on gravel - straight line or corner.
It doesn't even help on cars.

Dude it helps on cars, keeps wheels from locking as easily which optimizes breaking and with cars you have more stability. As far as using ABS on corners your not supposed to, ya gotta straighten out or the front wheel can grab and force you down. Supposidly it helps on bikes alot but i have mostly seen it on heavy bikes like the GoldWings,

 

[Diesel]

Dude it helps on cars, keeps wheels from locking as easily which optimizes breaking and with cars you have more stability. As far as using ABS on corners your not supposed to, ya gotta straighten out or the front wheel can grab and force you down. Supposidly it helps on bikes alot but i have mostly seen it on heavy bikes like the GoldWings,

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! As long as you are on gravel or ball bearings and that is the interface between your tires and the pavement, braking in any form will not help you.
Once you are surface to surface between tire and pavement your ABS will work better than regular brakes in maintaining a direction. My road name is Diesel - VNV m/c, not Dude

 

[imwright1985]

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! As long as you are on gravel or ball bearings and that is the interface between your tires and the pavement, braking in any form will not help you.
Once you are surface to surface between tire and pavement your ABS will work better than regular brakes in maintaining a direction. My road name is Diesel - VNV m/c, not Dude

Ok i always thought it was to control the amount of slip between your wheels more consistantly to help reduce the amount your wheels lock up. Could just be me though since i have lived on a dirt road with gravel and sand thrown onto the asphalt at every intersection for about 8 miles from my house for about 10 years.

I have always looked at it as the rubber on your tires have a higher amount of friction so when you go to stop on gravel the tires would try grabbing it and dragging it while its locked, then once the brakes pulse the tire starts to roll a little allowing it to finish rolling over the gravel your tires were "stuck" on and the gravel that was sliding on the surface would be left behind. allowing the oportunity for the tire to utilize the road surface then

 

[Goat]

Ok i always thought it was to control the amount of slip between your wheels more consistantly to help reduce the amount your wheels lock up. Could just be me though since i have lived on a dirt road with gravel and sand thrown onto the asphalt at every intersection for about 8 miles from my house for about 10 years.

I have always looked at it as the rubber on your tires have a higher amount of friction so when you go to stop on gravel the tires would try grabbing it and dragging it while its locked, then once the brakes pulse the tire starts to roll a little allowing it to finish rolling over the gravel your tires were "stuck" on and the gravel that was sliding on the surface would be left behind. allowing the oportunity for the tire to utilize the road surface then

That's kinda' the way I've always understood it. "Anti-lock braking system, (ABS)"...whether it's gravel, snow, ice, or whatever causes your tires to loose grip and causes your brakes to lock, the ABS is there to sense this and pump the brakes at a much faster rate than a human to allow you to maintain control of the vehicle. If your brakes lock, you loose steering control. If the ABS is working like it should, you still have some steering control while you are able to slow the vehicle instead of just helplessly sliding into the ditch, regardless of the surface on which traction is lost.

 

[Diesel]

That's kinda' the way I've always understood it. "Anti-lock braking system, (ABS)"...whether it's gravel, snow, ice, or whatever causes your tires to loose grip and causes your brakes to lock, the ABS is there to sense this and pump the brakes at a much faster rate than a human to allow you to maintain control of the vehicle. If your brakes lock, you loose steering control. If the ABS is working like it should, you still have some steering control while you are able to slow the vehicle instead of just helplessly sliding into the ditch, regardless of the surface on which traction is lost.

You are correct with surface contact, but doesn't work that way with gravel on the road surface. Think of gravel as small BBs. Once you loose control you loose control until you make contact again with the surface.
I do agree that ABS works on surfaces, wet, ice, snow, but never on gravel!! I know I can steer my vehicle on ice by keeping the brakes applied, as long as I don't over-steer, then all bets are off. And gravel roads are different than riding on a gravel covered road surface in a turn. I have seen people going down on gravel covered road trying to maneuver the turn too fast, going down without ever applying the brakes. Braking would not have helped the situation.

 

[Goat]

You are correct with surface contact, but doesn't work that way with gravel on the road surface. Think of gravel as small BBs. Once you loose control you loose control until you make contact again with the surface.
I do agree that ABS works on surfaces, wet, ice, snow, but never on gravel!! I know I can steer my vehicle on ice by keeping the brakes applied, as long as I don't over-steer, then all bets are off. And gravel roads are different than riding on a gravel covered road surface in a turn. I have seen people going down on gravel covered road trying to maneuver the turn too fast, going down without ever applying the brakes. Braking would not have helped the situation.

I spent the first 20 years of my life both driving cars/trucks and riding motorcycles mostly on gravel roads, so I'm no stranger to the gravel. I most definitely prefer nice clean, dry pavement. It is a lot less damaging to your vehicle. Nevertheless, to me wheel lock is wheel lock and I don't think the ABS can tell the difference between snow, ice, gravel, oil, snot.....or whatever has caused the loss of traction while applying the brakes. I agree that if you're going to fast around a turn sometimes brakes with or without ABS won't help, but it doesn't make a difference what has come between your tires and the road. Whether I think ice is worse, or you think gravel is worse, the ABS is going to do the same thing during a loss of traction. I myself have never ridden a motorcycle with ABS. I'm curious as to how much experience you've had riding bikes equipped with ABS. Is there much of a difference in performance comparing the older ABS bikes to ABS bikes built in the last couple of years?

 

[Diesel]

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/staticfile...ia/PDFs/VRTC/ca/capubs/NHTSAabsT4FinalRpt.pdf

Read the report. . .it states that it takes 24% - 30% longer to stop on gravel with ABS.

 

[Goat]

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/staticfile...ia/PDFs/VRTC/ca/capubs/NHTSAabsT4FinalRpt.pdf

Read the report. . .it states that it takes 24% - 30% longer to stop on gravel with ABS.

I thought we were discussing control of the vehicle. Even this 11 year old report to which you provided a link states that "...vehicular stability during testing was almost always superior with the assistance of ABS. To preserve the driver's ability to maintain directional control of the vehicle while braking, the wheels must not be allowed to lock. By preserving this control, however, stopping distances made over the gravel test surface were extended." As long as I'm not stupid enough to tailgate someone on a road with a slippery surface, I have no problem trading off stopping distance for better control. Also, this report is for "light vehicles". Does that include motorcycles? No, probably not. As I stated before, I have no experience on bikes equipped with ABS. Do you have any experience on ABS bikes? I can only conclude that ABS on a bike means the same thing; anti-lock braking system, which means that you have more control if your wheels are permitted to roll intermittently rather than if your wheels are locked and sliding.

 

[Diesel]

Here is my first post
ABS will absolutely not help on gravel - straight line or corner.
It doesn't even help on cars.

Notice the word gravel? I'm talking gravel, gravel, gravel, and only gravel. . . not ice, snow, deer guts, water, or anything else. . .gravel.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW. . . GRAVEL!!!!
It's the same gravel that existed 11 years ago. . .

 

[Goat]

Here is my first post
ABS will absolutely not help on gravel - straight line or corner.
It doesn't even help on cars.

Notice the word gravel? I'm talking gravel, gravel, gravel, and only gravel. . . not ice, snow, deer guts, water, or anything else. . .gravel.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW. . . GRAVEL!!!!
It's the same gravel that existed 11 years ago. . .

...and as your report shows, ABS does help maintain control on gravel......but it would also help maintain control in a wild deer gut skid, I'm sure.

 

[imwright1985]

Here is my first post
ABS will absolutely not help on gravel - straight line or corner.
It doesn't even help on cars.

Notice the word gravel? I'm talking gravel, gravel, gravel, and only gravel. . . not ice, snow, deer guts, water, or anything else. . .gravel.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW. . . GRAVEL!!!!
It's the same gravel that existed 11 years ago. . .

dont stop short on gravel then and everything else should be better with ABS

 

[collinswvugrad]

This is hard to follow... Is Diesel talking about gravel or what?

 

[imwright1985]

This is hard to follow... Is Diesel talking about gravel or what?

I think hes talking about a grave because the whole is abs better or not worth it has been beaten to death....... A few times