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How much blue is normal? I installed my cobra swepts and Fi2000r 3 weeks ago and i noticed last night that the rear head pipe is pretty blue at the flange. Under the heat shield of coures.

I also noticed that where the 2 pipes are welded together back by the swing arm is blue now also.

Bike seems to be running fine with the default presets that cobra had programmed and the bike seemed to pick up power all over, mostly on top end.

Is this bluing normal?
 

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I put Cobra longs on my 1700 cruizer and ran it for 2 months before I put a power commander on it and had no bluing anywhere, hope its not just a Fury thing.
 

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I'm putting on my Kury chrome engine case kit today and will be taking pics anyway, i'll get some of what im talking about.
 

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Are you running with baffles in or our?
 

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Baffles in.
 

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Really, I had cobras on a few bikes and never had issues with bluing, kinda surprizes me to hear that. Beats the h-ll out of me. I just put mine on about 200 miles, still look like new
 

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Are you running with baffles in or our?
I ran with baffles in for a month or two and have some bluing in the area you are referring to , I wouldn't worry about it too much. I had bluing on the pipes I had on my 750 spirit, also cobra's, but it never got really bad. I have seen some that are dark purple. Anyway, as I'm sure you already know this is caused from too much heat, and without the fi tuner, you are going to have that. Did you happen to notice if this happened before or after the tuner? I am sure it did, as this was the case with mine. However, the tuner should cool things off a little by regulating things a little better. So there is my opinion for what it is worth. I just installed the tuner today and noticed a considerable difference. I took the baffles out last week (couldn't wait a few more days for the Fi2000r) and noticed on my ride today that the tuner is definitely doing it's job! Really glad, I was getting nervous from some of the stuff I had read on here. Well like I said opinions are like assholes, EVERYONE has one, and this is mine. Good luck and safe riding!
 

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Did you happen to notice if this happened before or after the tuner? I am sure it did, as this was the case with mine. However, the tuner should cool things off a little by regulating things a little better. So there is my opinion for what it is worth. I just installed the tuner today and noticed a considerable difference. I took the baffles out last week (couldn't wait a few more days for the Fi2000r) and noticed on my ride today that the tuner is definitely doing it's job! Really glad, I was getting nervous from some of the stuff I had read on here. Well like I said opinions are like assholes, EVERYONE has one, and this is mine. Good luck and safe riding!
Forgot to mention that i installed the pipes and tuner at the same time.

How's the improvement without the baffles ? I really just wanted more of a rumble from the bike. I was afraid it would produce too much "BLAAAAT" kind of sound more than anything. Kind of hard to describe. Like open headers on a chevy small block above 3000rpm. Cool at the track but obnoxious on the streets.

I heard the best way to get the baffles out was WD-40 and a coat hanger, what did you use? WOuld it be tough getting them back in?

THANKS for all the input guys! I'll have the pics up tonight.
 

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Same questions about the baffles for me
 

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Forgot to mention that i installed the pipes and tuner at the same time.

How's the improvement without the baffles ? I really just wanted more of a rumble from the bike. I was afraid it would produce too much "BLAAAAT" kind of sound more than anything. Kind of hard to describe. Like open headers on a chevy small block above 3000rpm. Cool at the track but obnoxious on the streets.

I heard the best way to get the baffles out was WD-40 and a coat hanger, what did you use? WOuld it be tough getting them back in?

THANKS for all the input guys! I'll have the pics up tonight.
This is the second time I have taken the baffles out at first I really didn't like it. The first time I had the pipes off and this made it a whole lot easier. I would definetely recommend taking the pipes off to remove the baffles. All you have to do is take out the retaining screw and find something long enough to beat the baffle out with. They are very stubborn and far enough in that they are a huge pain to get out with the pipes on. As for sound, they sound pretty good(I really like it and I am pretty picky) and the rough gurgle on decel seems to have improved quite a bit with the fi2000r install. I am thinking about looking into desmogging my bike as I have heard that this is what causes that gurgling sound. Has to do with air being put back into the exhaust to burn out any remaining (blow-by) fuel. But hey that's a whole different post.
 

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This is the second time I have taken the baffles out at first I really didn't like it. The first time I had the pipes off and this made it a whole lot easier. I would definetely recommend taking the pipes off to remove the baffles. All you have to do is take out the retaining screw and find something long enough to beat the baffle out with. They are very stubborn and far enough in that they are a huge pain to get out with the pipes on. As for sound, they sound pretty good(I really like it and I am pretty picky) and the rough gurgle on decel seems to have improved quite a bit with the fi2000r install. I am thinking about looking into desmogging my bike as I have heard that this is what causes that gurgling sound. Has to do with air being put back into the exhaust to burn out any remaining (blow-by) fuel. But hey that's a whole different post.
ncbeaty,
If you figure out how -- please pass it along. Would like to do the same.
Thanks
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ncbeaty,
If you figure out how -- please pass it along. Would like to do the same.
Thanks
T
Yes I will definetely post. I have been looking in to how it is done on the vtx, and I am going to get in there and see what the difference is with the fury. It doesn't look like there is much to it, just complex instructions like don't do this or that and if you do this instead of that you will be picking up pieces of your crank off of the asphault. So I am definetely going to do LOTS more research on the matter. Will let you guys know what I find out. Unless you live in CA, then you are on your own as they are quite different from what I gather.
 

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I desmogged mine.Very easy.for the most part.I took my tank off that was the hardest part for me.It bassically is taking 3 tubes off,unplugging the power cord and unscrewing it from the mount.It took me about a hour to do.
 

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I desmogged mine.Very easy.for the most part.I took my tank off that was the hardest part for me.It bassically is taking 3 tubes off,unplugging the power cord and unscrewing it from the mount.It took me about a hour to do.
JazzCatCF,
Could you be a bit more specific. What tubes? What did you unplug etc.
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I desmogged mine.Very easy.for the most part.I took my tank off that was the hardest part for me.It bassically is taking 3 tubes off,unplugging the power cord and unscrewing it from the mount.It took me about a hour to do.
Did this help with the gurgling and stuff?
 

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Baffels out

Is there a performance difference with the baffels out? Would I have to get the Power Commander tunned again? How much louder is it?
 

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Is there a performance difference with the baffels out? Would I have to get the Power Commander tunned again? How much louder is it?
If you don't have it tuned right, you WILL notice a significant difference in performance. I have the Fi2000r and the factory settings seemed to be just right with the baffles out. It is considerably louder with them out but it has a very good smooth deep rumble(with the FI tuner) I just installed the S&S air cleaner so I have to start all over with the tuner and would like to know if anyone has found the right settings for this setup (cobra swepts, Fi2000r, and the S&S air cleaner.
 

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If you don't have it tuned right, you WILL notice a significant difference in performance. I have the Fi2000r and the factory settings seemed to be just right with the baffles out. It is considerably louder with them out but it has a very good smooth deep rumble(with the FI tuner) I just installed the S&S air cleaner so I have to start all over with the tuner and would like to know if anyone has found the right settings for this setup (cobra swepts, Fi2000r, and the S&S air cleaner.
Current setup is Cobra swepts; S&S air cleaner; Fi2000r - my (tentative!!) final settings are 4-3-0. Here's why:

The best performance based on how smooth the bike ran was when I had just the swept pipes and the fi2000 with factory settings which were 0-0-0. Not sure why they were set that way; different from the default settings as described in the instructions, but the bike ran great. I added the S&S air cleaner and in many small ways performance went to hell. (sluggish on acceleration thru all the gears, *especially* noticeable with moderate roll-on throttle in 4th and 5th gear); very coldstart, easy to stall, etc.

Tried every incremental increase of the first two pots up to around 6-5-0 with steady improvements, at which point (I think) I began to notice a return of slightly rough running; backed it down to 5-4-0 and had it set there when I took it in for 600 mile service (couple hundred miles overdue at that point)

The wrench who did the service said all was fine but the plugs were "slightly" blackened indicating mixture a tad on the rich side. I'd been deciding whether to back it down to 4-3-0; and after he told me that I went ahead and did it. Bike runs pretty good - ESPECIALLY got rid of that cold off-idle crap; pulls strong as hell off the line at stoplights/signs what have you. Gotta say though I still have the feeling that I never got it "quite" right - back to the point of overall smoothness that it was with just the pipes and the 0-0-0 setting.

Frankly, I got so tired of the endless cycle of ride/hop off/pop sidecover/tweek pot/remount - ride/hop off/pop side cover etc., etc., ad infinitum lol ... that untill/unless someone comes up with really well-tested (or dyno-tested) setting for the s&s/swept pipe/fi2000 combo that here's where it's gonna stay.

Actually, if it weren't such a big chunka $$, I would seriously consider scrapping the 2000 and go with PC5/autotune combo. There isn't a dyno tester within 70 miles of dayton ohio which will dyno a Fury (the two in Dayton proper won't put *anything* but a harley on their dyno; the one performance shop that will is booked till around next May. If the pc5/autotune works as advertised, granted you'd have to drill port for o2 sensor and it'd be a bit of a hassle but you could run any pipe/intake combo you wanted - least that's my understanding.

S&S stated awhile back they were gonna dyno the S&S aircleaner/cobra swept pipe combo with a PC5 and post a map, but when I talked to them last week the tech said yah we're gonna do that but it could be around 3 months or so lol - no use to me till next summer in that case.

Anyway, that got to be kinda long answer, but my setting is 4-3-0. If you find a better one, or whatever you find, PLEASE POST!!! Definitely want to hear from anyone pot-diddling the s&s/cobraswept/fi2000 combo.

Hope this helped; clear as mud I know :rolleyes:
 
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