[skappiris]

took the baby out this a.m. and conducted some very un-scientific testing. my results follow:

gas: Texaco regular
Upgrades:
V&H Cruzers (w/ full baffles)
Cobra Fi2000r fuel management
Cobra PowerFlo air cleaner
*National Cycle Deflector dx (tinted, so Clueless can't see my big, fat smiling face!)

RESULTS:
Setting#1 (Cobra suggested): 1-2-0 = no discernable power gains
Setting#2: 1-2-1 = no discernable power gains
Setting#3: 2-3-3 = OH MY...

My Magnum Super deLuxe blah-blah-blah mirrors vibrated at 70!! Prior to the PowerFlo they never vibrated till well past 80.

The power jump from 0-60 was phenomenal. Didn't time it. Too busy hanging on!!!
My 40-60mph times:
Setting #1 & 2 = 4.2sec
Setting #3 = 3.0 sec.

That's a full second improvement (25%) by adding the PowerFlo.
I'm a believer.

*Why did I mention the The Deflector screen? It lived up to it's name when a nimrod pulled into the SunPass/exact change lane this a.m. w/o a SunPass or exact change.
my screen nicely parried the cross arm as I zoomed past his idiotic butt.

I'm outta here.
gotta ride, baby!

P.S. I'l post my 0-40 and 0-60 times later today. I wanted to get this up before CB re-packed his PowerFlo.

 

[Toadster]

You just saved me a lot of hassle figuring out how to adjust my FI2000 when I get this intake. Thank you!

 

[mental]

Are you sure you are not running a tad rich on medium and high range.

 

[skappiris]

No, I am not sure, M. I am concerned about the vibes. I'll do another run tomorrow (after the SoFla lightening storms abate) and get back to you. Thanks for your insight, sir.
But, the power is there. It's quantifiable. It's analagous to being thrown back in your seat when you floor your muscle car.

Just got back from your neck of the woods; had a great lunch at Islamorada Fish Co.

Haven't forgotten about your offer with the C&C seat. I'll wait for Chuck to show me his ethics. If no go, I'll PM you.

 

[BarFury]

......... It's quantifiable............

skappiris;

Love your enthusiasm, and please don't take this the wrong way; I'm not trying to start a pissing contest! But, when you say "it's quantifiable", I immediately have to ask, by what metric? As you well know, the second least well-calibrated "organ" in the human body, after the brain, is your ass. I, for one, will need to see some dyno runs, or some accurately-timed ("one chimpanzee, two chimpanzee, etc. doesn't cut it), measured mile runs before I buy-in to your assertions. As for the "magical" 2-3-3 F/C settings, again, as measured by what? Screw-on a set of probes and an AFR gauge, then report back. If, then, you find your machine is centering around the optimal 13.2:1 max-power ratio and still giving you that kick-in-the-pants response, I'll have to, immediately, set up my machine like yours. Until then, I remain skeptically optimistic. Carry on.................

PS: To quote an old adage, "Perception is seldom reality". For example, if you're a male, that long-haired, big-busted chick sitting down at the other end of the bar is seldom as good in bed as your fantasies (and your male instincts) suggest she should be! LOL.

Cheers

 

[skappiris]

Oh boy did you ever start a pissing contest, Bar. I love this sh**.

Your love of metrics is wonderful; but, you're challenging, not my perceptions, but those of Cobra.
They dyno'd. I rode.
I build computer sim's for all kinds of environments. It's what I do. Now, all the sims in the world, with all the metrics in the world are NEVER a substitute for getting off of that ass of mine and putting the pedal to the metal.

You enjoy those dyno readouts; me, I ride my fury on a daily basis. I know what it can do; and not do.
I'll state it again: there is more DISCERNABLE (i.e. I can FEEL it) power NOW that I have the fuel management+more FORCED air+less restrictive pipes.

I am not one to spend $$ freely and then defend my expenses with hyperbole.
Not offended at all. But, don't try to shove metrics down these folks pipes.

These guys want to 'hear' and see results from folks like you and me. They don't give a rat's behind about metrics. They want to know this:
"is it loud enough
powerful enough
to make me smile when I stomp on the throttle."

that's it. nothing else matters. I have two ex-bosses who tried to stuff metrics down my throat. We lost a ton of $$ while they were running the place.
They're gone; I'm still here because, I produce results and report them as I experience them.
Without perception, we do not have 'loud' or 'thrust'...we have zilch.

Pissing contest? don't kid yourself, this whole forum is a pissing contest.
<whew> all this typing and now I'm thirsty. I think i'll read a label on a can of beer and perceive what the liquor tastes like.

ttfn

 

[mental]

Excuse Me!
Be right back!

 

[BarFury]

Your love of metrics is wonderful; but, you're challenging, not my perceptions, but those of Cobra. They dyno'd. I rode.

FWIW; I used the term "metrics" as it is generally used in engineering and scientific circles, as in posing the question, "What metric (means of measurement) did you apply?" (I am a Mechanical/Design Engineer, btw). And, no, I was challenging your perceptions, not Cobra's. In the world/s of engineering and science, everything gets challenged, and is held to a universally established and accepted standard of proof; seat-of-your-pants feedback doesn't meet the criterion.

I build computer sim's for all kinds of environments.

You are, I'm assuming, a professional technical person, therefore my assertion, above, should be ipso-facto for you.

These guys want to 'hear' and see results from folks like you and me. They don't give a rat's behind about metrics.

While that may be true for "these guys", as you put it, I must insist upon something more quantifiable than seat-of-your-pants impressions.

I'm thirsty. I think i'll read a label on a can of beer and perceive what the liquor tastes like.

If that's your only criteria, and barring more broad-based testing, you'll probably be disappointed.

Cheers

 

[CBSIMONSEZ]

P.S. I'l post my 0-40 and 0-60 times later today. I wanted to get this up before CB re-packed his PowerFlo.

Now that is some phunny chit! Im currently running 2s across the board and find it a fun bike to ride. Although after reading this thread, i may have to adjust the Fi2000 yet again.

As far as this being a pissing match ... so be it. Reality is 100% perception to the rider. I can tell you how many knuckle heads add a noisey intake to a car and think that they can now chase down Vettes! SKAP is just posting his "by the seat of the pants" feel. I too feel that this is a worth while investment for the Fury. Nuff said.

 

[skappiris]

and, yeah, reading the label and not trying it was my point, Sir Bar--seriously fun discussion. love the vitriol.
wait, i just realized something: we're discussing metrics about METRICS. LoL
HaHaHaHa.
Bar, you and I just made a funny ?? (whatever that is called).
but, alas father's day aside, one gotta go feed the dog, cat, birds, lizards lest they revollt.

Mental, you can come back now; we're not arguing. We're 'discussing'.
Happy Dad's day folks.

 

[skappiris]

just one more little item for ya, Bar. since you like to QUOTE alot:
from my original assertion:
"took the baby out this a.m. and conducted some very UN-SCIENTIFIC testing. my results follow:"

right from the get-go, I stated how I was quantifying. I do not have to please anyone but myself; that includes you, sir.

Therefore, you may continue to stare at that beautiful bike that's sitting in the garage and wait for it to impress you; the rest of us will put the key in the ignition and ride.

Now, CB: it's really 'NUFF SAID.

 

[CBSIMONSEZ]

play nice yall .. or its the time out for everyone! LOL

 

[skappiris]

aw shux, I'm sorry. I'll never do it again.
;-)

 

[CBSIMONSEZ]

aw shux, I'm sorry. I'll never do it again.
;-)

Oh, its not me you have to look out for .. its the other guy, and hes a little mental.

 

[skappiris]

<oops> <varoom>

 

[skappiris]

Another ride has confirmed Mental's suggestion:
2-3-2 is so very fine. I'm done for now and happy w results. No vibes at 85!

 

[CBSIMONSEZ]

Another ride has confirmed Mental's suggestion:
2-3-2 is so very fine. I'm done for now and happy w results. No vibes at 85!

Hmm ... your your throttle pot is one click higher then mine. I never go faster then 75 ... so i dunno ....

 

[skappiris]

PowerFlo Photos

 

[skappiris]

my cruising speed is 70. I wanted to make sure the vibes were under control. 85 is my magic number. I won't go faster than that.

 

[Goat]

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....and of course you had to be the first to show this damn thing on a black bike..... I couldn't even catch a break on that.

You even have the Black Widow foot pegs I want.