ok guys i havent yet pulled my forks apart to chrome the bottoms. since its my prim riding time. i know they are 45mm. but what i dont know yet is how long are the tubes with out the bottoms. if any one has there forks pulled apart or knows the tube lenght. please let me know. as i found a company willing to make me longer tubes im looking for when i go with L&M's 8deg trees im going to go with maybe 3" or 4" longer tubes. so i can keep the factory turn lamps in the stock location. and not have a machined looking line. like you would get with the fork extenders. i wouldnt mind the fork extenders if i wanted to move the turn lamps down and place them over the machined line. to hide the fact there is extanders.