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I won't admit to how long I rode before I learned what the "friction zone" is and how to use it.
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Not to sound like a total rookie, but this is real close to what i was taught today in my riding course. I was so freaked out cause it feels like your gonna fall inside the circle your making. What i was taught, and what really makes a difference, it to keep your head up and turned over your shoulder as far as you can, and you can make tight .. tight circles.
I havent rode street bikes in 25 years, and today i was real close to dragging the pegs while making my circles.
I havent rode street bikes in 25 years, and today i was real close to dragging the pegs while making my circles.
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Your not alone!!!
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They are supposed to touch on it a bit in the class, In the MTII course they had the BOX which was a rectangular area that you had to figure 8 uturns in, higher speed swerving, turn assessment, and brake drills. Its kinda fun, that is why most of the riding issues on here, Brake discussions, and turning issues I always talk about how i try to practice once a month in the park. Its nice to be able to whip your bike around anywhere you need to go and not have to walk it wherever your going. The fury is not as good of a handling bike as those for doing tight turns like that though. The rake on this bike kills your turning radius
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hehe start with a sport bike 
lay it till your knees rub
lay it till your knees rub
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Start riding dirtbikes, go on some group rides too so you need to watch others speed infront and behind you. That is how i learned which was constant speed corrections, leaning with bike and ground orientation/traction for turns, tight turns and being on your toes the entire time.hehe start with a sport bike
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Crap. On top of everything else I've added to this bike now I gotta add a new motorcycle so I can practice turns and then move back up to my fury. Oh well, if it's for safety's sake ...
In all seriousness, I've always thought myself a pretty good rider but those guys (and gals) make my turning skills look like shit lol ... I definitely gotta work on some stuff.
Wonder if you can really get anything hands-on useful and practical from watching training videos? Not sure what the ride like a pro series costs but I'd spend it if I thought you could ...
What's anyone else think?
Crap. On top of everything else I've added to this bike now I gotta add a new motorcycle so I can practice turns and then move back up to my fury. Oh well, if it's for safety's sake ...
In all seriousness, I've always thought myself a pretty good rider but those guys (and gals) make my turning skills look like shit lol ... I definitely gotta work on some stuff.
Wonder if you can really get anything hands-on useful and practical from watching training videos? Not sure what the ride like a pro series costs but I'd spend it if I thought you could ...
What's anyone else think?
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Anything to help build up your ability as a rider is worth it. Only thing is though you can be the best rider out there and a cager can take care of that from their negligence. Alot of my friends that dont ride and even some people that have seen me at the park that do ride are like WTF, but if they see me at the park just messing around and im almost willing to bet i can turn better on the fury than whatever bike they may have, probably stop better and can balance better for bumper to bumper. There is also the fact that if you are just doing drills its redundant and not quite reactive to where you build it much as an instinct reaction.
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pracxtice makes perfect.except on a bike.when you think you are perfect ,thats when it bites you on the a$$.pide safe
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On my way back from a ride the other day, I stopped at a church parking lot near my house and practiced for about 15 minutes. It was really kinda fun. I was doing figure “8’s” around light post and then doing tight turns around them. Just gotta make sure you don’t start getting dizzy. I think I will start making this a weekly routine. One day it may come in handy.
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Good vid, I got one and learned about the friction zone myself....chatted with his wife a few times....his humor is very dry, but the riding portion of the vids is good basic stuff!
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I need to practice a bit more to get as good as this guy though Im DAMN GOOD ALREADY! LOL!
Been using these tricks for a few years never/barely using front brake turning at slow speeds, especially with the FURY!
Watched a friend of mine go down in front of me due to front brake on right turn he shattered his elbow I HAD TO GET HELP FOR HIM!
Its hard to know what will happen in the REAL WORLD and BIKES! I say always be looking for a exit route or safe spot! And always ASSUME THEY DONT SEE YOU!
Been using these tricks for a few years never/barely using front brake turning at slow speeds, especially with the FURY!
Watched a friend of mine go down in front of me due to front brake on right turn he shattered his elbow I HAD TO GET HELP FOR HIM!
Its hard to know what will happen in the REAL WORLD and BIKES! I say always be looking for a exit route or safe spot! And always ASSUME THEY DONT SEE YOU!
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Best 30 bucks I ever spent on bike related stuff. I cut a bunch of tennis balls in half and practiced in an empty parking lot. Comes with diagrams for setting up. I use the techniques every time I ride.
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Glad to see im not the only one going for practice rides in the park somewhat often
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thanks for this post. i've never takin a driving course. my neighbor just finished his and said they had alot of good tips. just bought the dvd and might look into taking the driving course next time it comes up.
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Secret police techniques
My appologies for the length. Skip if easily bored. I emailed Motorman Jerry who produced the video and asked why these techniques aren't more widely taught since they are included in every motor officer school on the planet. He responded the same day:
''Is this some kind of world wide Motor Officer Secret''? Not anymore.
When I finished my Motor Officer training my riding improved so much, I was amazed that no one else knew about this type of training besides the Police. I asked some trainers why this type of thing wasn't offered to the public. They said, “most people are afraid to drop their own bikes so they wouldn't take this type of course”. I figured they were correct, but I knew that the main thing was learning to use the three techniques to the fullest extent and in a simple, easy to follow manner.
With lots of experimentation with my friends, I found that the techniques could be learned faster, safer and with much less chance of dropping their bike, by moving the exercises from 18ft to 24ft. It worked so well that 43 Police agency's around the country now use my dvd and training techniques to train their Officers. They start at 24ft and move down to 18ft after a couple of days of training. They found that instead of washing out half the students 98 percent make it, and injuries went way down. Other Motormen tell me they thought about doing what I did but I got off my ass and did it
I also had an advantage; before I became a Cop, I was a nightclub entertainer for 11 years so I was at ease in front of the camera and live audiences. I'm now one of the lucky few who can say I love my job. It's a wonderful feeling to be able to help so many people. I count my blessings every day
Jerry
My appologies for the length. Skip if easily bored. I emailed Motorman Jerry who produced the video and asked why these techniques aren't more widely taught since they are included in every motor officer school on the planet. He responded the same day:
''Is this some kind of world wide Motor Officer Secret''? Not anymore.
When I finished my Motor Officer training my riding improved so much, I was amazed that no one else knew about this type of training besides the Police. I asked some trainers why this type of thing wasn't offered to the public. They said, “most people are afraid to drop their own bikes so they wouldn't take this type of course”. I figured they were correct, but I knew that the main thing was learning to use the three techniques to the fullest extent and in a simple, easy to follow manner.
With lots of experimentation with my friends, I found that the techniques could be learned faster, safer and with much less chance of dropping their bike, by moving the exercises from 18ft to 24ft. It worked so well that 43 Police agency's around the country now use my dvd and training techniques to train their Officers. They start at 24ft and move down to 18ft after a couple of days of training. They found that instead of washing out half the students 98 percent make it, and injuries went way down. Other Motormen tell me they thought about doing what I did but I got off my ass and did it
I also had an advantage; before I became a Cop, I was a nightclub entertainer for 11 years so I was at ease in front of the camera and live audiences. I'm now one of the lucky few who can say I love my job. It's a wonderful feeling to be able to help so many people. I count my blessings every day
Jerry
When I got my first road bike 30+ years ago my uncle set me up with a patrol officer Friend of his to teach me how to ride on the street (I think it was a request of my mother) he showed me this and many other techniques. With the slow tight turns I had this habit sticking out my foot out, a habit I got from being a dirt biker, but i finally got it.
I haven't tried to see how tight I can make slow turns with the Fury, but with the VTX I scraped the pegs a few times
I haven't tried to see how tight I can make slow turns with the Fury, but with the VTX I scraped the pegs a few times
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granted i havent taken a Fury out for a ride yet, but i cant imagine you can get a tight circle on it cause of the rake. Im thinking one may need as much as a standard 2 way street ( minus the parking on either side ) just to do a U-turn.
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