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Hi all, my name is Matt, first time caller, long time listener... I've had my Matte Fury for about 3 months, recently found this forum. Anywho, i finally got my Viper 2's today, got them unpacked and was unable to located the Fuel Controller which i also ordered. I'm not going to install the pipes for a few days so i didnt want to take the bubble wrap off to look for the controller. I can't get ahold of Kelly to ask if it might be in the bubble wrap. I guess what i'm asking is, if you have purchased pipes and a controller from fuggin, where was your controller located in the box? I'm not even sure what the thing looks like... Thanks
 

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you gotta take the wrap off any way. Tear that box apart to see if its in there. If not, i wouldnt install those pipes until it does show up.

The install is not that bad. I did a write up in the Fuggin section. Good luck with taking the stock gaskets out if you do plan in installing new. I did a lot of cussing and stabbing my hand with my dental pick. When you get it out just enough, you can use the paint can opener that Home Depot used to hand out. Its a screw driver with a little hook on the end.

Be prepared to ride around like this ...:D. Cause your bike will never sound the same again.
 

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you gotta take the wrap off any way. Tear that box apart to see if its in there. If not, i wouldnt install those pipes until it does show up.

The install is not that bad. I did a write up in the Fuggin section. Good luck with taking the stock gaskets out if you do plan in installing new. I did a lot of cussing and stabbing my hand with my dental pick. When you get it out just enough, you can use the paint can opener that Home Depot used to hand out. Its a screw driver with a little hook on the end.

Be prepared to ride around like this ...:D. Cause your bike will never sound the same again.
Thanks for the heads up on the install, i will def. search for your write up. Are you saying it's easier to buy new gaskets vice fighting the old? I assume the old have to come out regardless. I went with the ceramic black vipe 2's and read that you dont neccesarily need the controller but i'm not gonna risk it. I can't wait to cuss n stab myself repeatedly n take it to someone who knows what they're doing.
 

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Congrats on bike and welcome to the forum. I agree that you should open the box up and check to see if the fuel controller is in there before getting worked up, I would think they shipped them together to save on shipping costs. It's much debated about changing out the gaskets, do you plan on changing them out? If so I wouldn't think it would be to hard to get them out since the bike is fairly new, at least I'm hoping since I only have about 800 miles on mine, I plan on changing my gaskets out.
 

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Congrats on bike and welcome to the forum. I agree that you should open the box up and check to see if the fuel controller is in there before getting worked up, I would think they shipped them together to save on shipping costs. It's much debated about changing out the gaskets, do you plan on changing them out? If so I wouldn't think it would be to hard to get them out since the bike is fairly new, at least I'm hoping since I only have about 800 miles on mine, I plan on changing my gaskets out.
Thank you, i was unaware there were gaskets in the first place so i really don't know what i'm going to do or if i should even be attempting this.... I suppose i'll fight them for a bit n if they're giving me fits i'll run to the dealer n see what they bang ya for a set. I'm gonna go tear that box apart now.
 

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Thank you, i was unaware there were gaskets in the first place so i really don't know what i'm going to do or if i should even be attempting this.... I suppose i'll fight them for a bit n if they're giving me fits i'll run to the dealer n see what they bang ya for a set. I'm gonna go tear that box apart now.
Not to sound like a dick, but you seem awfully green on this subject. You may want to consider doing some more reading up on the forum before you get in over your head. .02c
 

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Congrats on bike and welcome to the forum. I agree that you should open the box up and check to see if the fuel controller is in there before getting worked up, I would think they shipped them together to save on shipping costs. It's much debated about changing out the gaskets, do you plan on changing them out? If so I wouldn't think it would be to hard to get them out since the bike is fairly new, at least I'm hoping since I only have about 800 miles on mine, I plan on changing my gaskets out.
YOu would think that, but no. I had less then 500 miles logged on her, and the gaskets ( esp. the back ) was a P.I.A.

Do they need to be replaced, i honestly dont know. I had picked a set up from another member ( who went and bought a HD ) for 10 bucks.
 

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Kenney, gaskets are hard to see, but are in there. Is is very often better to change out gaskets, use dental pick or grind down paint can opener. Why risk having to install pipes twice if they leak. Remember, black coated pipes are green. That means ceramic coating is very soft and scratches very, very, easily. Cover any thing you could bump them against during install, and be carefully not to scratch or hit them with your tools. Be sure to clean them of all finger prints, dirt, grease before startup. Proper procedure to heat treat is, start bike 1 minuet, off 1 minuet. Do 5 times. then ride around for about 15-30 minuets and they will be fairly heat treated. Check for leaks befor your ride and after and in 100 miles.
 

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Kenney, gaskets are hard to see, but are in there. Is is very often better to change out gaskets, use dental pick or grind down paint can opener. Why risk having to install pipes twice if they leak. Remember, black coated pipes are green. That means ceramic coating is very soft and scratches very, very, easily. Cover any thing you could bump them against during install, and be carefully not to scratch or hit them with your tools. Be sure to clean them of all finger prints, dirt, grease before startup. Proper procedure to heat treat is, start bike 1 minuet, off 1 minuet. Do 5 times. then ride around for about 15-30 minuets and they will be fairly heat treated. Check for leaks befor your ride and after and in 100 miles.
What he said. I might add that I installed mine and found it fairly easy. Read the instructions! Just take your time and do mask off areas on the bike where you will be working. The FC is a snap to install, the hardest part was finding a suitable location for it. BTW: LOVE these pipes.
 

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What he said. I might add that I installed mine and found it fairly easy. Read the instructions! Just take your time and do mask off areas on the bike where you will be working. The FC is a snap to install, the hardest part was finding a suitable location for it. BTW: LOVE these pipes.
Yours came with instructions? You have no idea how long i sat there looking at the bike trying to figure out where that little bracket goes that hold the back end of the pipes! LOL
 

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I think a set of gaskets at the dealership costs like $20, you can probably look around and find a set cheaper but I'm deployed so I had the wife get them and it was just easier for her to get them there, I wanted to make sure I had all the stuff I needed so when I get home I don't have to run around and get anything. Like Mental said just be careful with your pipes since they are powder coated don't want to hear that you scratched them. Good luck.
 

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dont ever put pipes on without new gaskets.check for leaks with a long lighter.if it blows the flame you know its leaking.those leaks will melt your chrome on the heads.good luck
 

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dont ever put pipes on without new gaskets.check for leaks with a long lighter.if it blows the flame you know its leaking.those leaks will melt your chrome on the heads.good luck
Or just accidentally double it up like I did, being so green to motorcycles when I first put mine on about a year ago... lol :eek::eek::eek: Guaranteed no leaks that way :p
 

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Yours came with instructions? You have no idea how long i sat there looking at the bike trying to figure out where that little bracket goes that hold the back end of the pipes! LOL
Mine came with instructions but I looked at that bracket a loonngg time, too. :eek: My C&C seat however, did not have instructions. :D :eek:
 

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in case you don't believe us: DO REMOVE THE OLD GASKETS and REPLACE with NEW.
Take a scratch awl and bend the tip about 75 degrees and let the bike cool down completely before removing the gaskets. They are in there quite tight.

Mine were a bear to remove and took longer to remove them than to install the actual pipes. Also, you don't want to scrape any part of that manifold area.
The new copper gaskets squish nicely into a clean, rounded hole. They can't compensate for a ding or dig, though.

Clean the pipes completely before firing her up. You will get some bluing at the top of the pipes as they exit the manifold. I don't know if Fuggin's come with heat shields, so cleaning is mandatory. Where possible, where some gloves while handling them.

Once the pipes are installed, take the bike for a little 25-50 mile ride; maybe find a railroad track to rumble over and then check your fittings and tighten as needed.
 
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