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for you American guy, what is +/- ?

i think (but i never see the Honda Fury, waiting october)

Honda

+ Fiability
+ design
+ gearbox

- plastic
- no alarm
- no key card


Harley (fatbob)

+ motor 1580 cc
+ alarm
+ legend HD

- gearbox
- price is more than 1000 euros
- stage 1 expensive (in europe)
- design more classic


i think i will buy Fury :D
 

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I looked at a Fat Bob before the Fury... I'm glad I waited for the Fury to come out, the Fat Bob is a distant memory now :D
 

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Fury:

+ style
+ liquid cooling
+ style
+ shaft drive (essentially no maintenance)
+ style

- minus plastic
- not offered in bright metallic orange


Fat Bob:

+ it's still got air-cooled Harley engine charisma


- style not a grabber to me compared to Fury
- I don't think you can get a Harley without the stupid alarm feature
(costs extra $$$$)
- left side belt drive (will be much trouble or $$$ when it comes time to
replace the belt).
 

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You left one important thing out. A Fat Bob is going to be $16.500 minimum out the door but probably higher. Also the base insurance is well over $100 higher to insure the Fat Bob.

As far as plastic I don't see where that's ever an issue. Most cars and trucks have a huge amount of plastic in them. No rust, easier to replace it if damaged etc. The new polymers used to make plastic is sometimes more durable than metal.

Get stuck in traffic or construction on a hot day with the Fat Bob and you may not make it back alive. Those things run hot! Can't be good in the long run to keep running that hot. Its got to take its toll on oil and parts.

Also there is a wealth of information about customer complaints about most all the Harley bikes especially the Fat Bob. But I guess that's ok. Better to push and pay for repairs than ride and have fun on a reliable bike that's not a Harley. (mild sarcasm here!)

But if you're going to get a Fat Bob get the 2009. The engines in the 2010 models are going to be full of parts made in China. Another reliability issue that could put the final nail in the HD coffin.
 

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You're exactly right ricfury. I was at a state park last Sunday which seems to be a haven for motorcycle people of all types and ages.

Believe it or not most everybody was scoping out the Hondas, some having been around a very long time and nobody was paying a moment of attention to the Harley's
 

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The fat bob has a certain cool look to it since it resembles some of the older bikes from the 40s and 50s in my opinion.
Its too small framed of a bike for my tastes.

fury wins with style, price, reliability, fuel injection, liquid cooled.

fat bobs (or all harleys for that matter), only positive point is for being an american icon. All though now many parts are now made overseas and just assembled in the US
 

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for brakes, is it OK with the Fury ? seems not so good with the fatbob

I dont know if the Europe will have the ABS model for october.

For what the bike is, the brakes are good. The floating disk up front is a plus over Harley's fixed disk. With the thin front tire though, don't expect a lot of braking power, it just won't be there (compared to a modern sport bike with twin 320mm+ floating rotors 4 or 6 piston calipers and a lot of front tire on the ground). I suspect that the lack of braking power may be one reason why the bike speed is limited to 100 mph.
 

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Get stuck in traffic or construction on a hot day with the Fat Bob and you may not make it back alive. Those things run hot! Can't be good in the long run to keep running that hot. Its got to take its toll on oil and parts.
For all the charisma of the air-cooled Harley engine, the heat issues with the newer ones are to be considered. Last year, stuck in a traffic jam, my Harley Softail engine management system went into 'heat management mode': idle speed increased to get more oil circulating (next step I think is shut down the rear cylinder).. anyway I had to pull off at the next exit to let the engine cool down.

Liquid cooling means none of that worry. The way the Fury's radiator is tucked in it doesn't ruin the looks of the bike. It could almost resemble a Harley engine with a large oil cooler :)

The only time liquid cooling gave me a problem was when the fan motor fuse blew on my dearly departed 1100 Shadow, I had to pull over to let the engine cool and put in a replacement fuse (never blew a fuse again afer that, thankfully).
 

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Funny Harley Salesman

2 Days before I bought my Fury I went to The area Harley to check out the Fat Bob. I wanted the Fat Bob for alot of different reasons but mainly the cool/respect factor.

17,130.00 out the door
6.5% juice and 1000 gift card

Fat Bob seat was to high for me because primary is so massive, so I would have to spend 500.00 to get it right plus mid-mount controls n/c.

Fury was perfect from jump street
14,000 out the door
3.99% juice

Harley sales guy calls and says that he and manager have decided to let the bike go for 17k what a real deal!LOL!!! Just read that Harley sales have dropped again. I know why!!!!

I bought my Fury the next day and have NEVER gotten more compliments on a bike in 22 year of owning them!:):D:)

Thought the VMAX has gotten more attention than my ex buddies Dyna wide glide whenever we were out:D:D:
 

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i have been rideing sinse 1962.i started with harleys,but got tired of the ride a day walk a week and spend your paychech to ride another day.bought a kz 900 in 1976 chopped it and never looked back.sold that old kz for 5 times what i paid for it.been rideing honda ever sinse.have a nice day and keep the rubber on the ground.
 

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i have been rideing sinse 1962.i started with harleys,but got tired of the ride a day walk a week and spend your paychech to ride another day.bought a kz 900 in 1976 chopped it and never looked back.sold that old kz for 5 times what i paid for it.been rideing honda ever sinse.have a nice day and keep the rubber on the ground.

In all fairness though, modern Harleys are very dependable bikes.
 

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I was about to grab a Fury then was convinced by my buddies to try the Street Bob and damn, it's a tough choice now! Any thoughts? I know the ultimate choice is totally personal but I'm getting an ulcer on this one! I've only ridden 250's before.
 

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I was about to grab a Fury then was convinced by my buddies to try the Street Bob and damn, it's a tough choice now! Any thoughts? I know the ultimate choice is totally personal but I'm getting an ulcer on this one! I've only ridden 250's before.
You get your street bob for 5K more and me and you we'll go riding downtown Ottawa and we will see in traffic on a 30 degree day who will have to pull over a half a dozen times cause of overheating! Then we'll see who made the good decision!
 

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I was about to grab a Fury then was convinced by my buddies to try the Street Bob and damn, it's a tough choice now! Any thoughts? I know the ultimate choice is totally personal but I'm getting an ulcer on this one! I've only ridden 250's before.
Dave.........its a tough decision. There's good and bad all the way around. I've had Hondas and I've had Harleys. In fact I still have a Harley Sportster which I kept. It runs very well and has tons of power. Its built really well too. Heavy frame and excellent welds. Solid as a rock actually.

But I never drove it in heavy traffic where I had to worry about a cooling issue. I know alot of guys who have Fat Bobs and Street Bobs and they all love them.
 

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I was about to grab a Fury then was convinced by my buddies to try the Street Bob and damn, it's a tough choice now! Any thoughts? I know the ultimate choice is totally personal but I'm getting an ulcer on this one! I've only ridden 250's before.
I feel the same way after testing the vtx 1300C.:D I told my harley riding friend that I did not feel much difference in the VTX and Fatbob. I like them both and the Fury! now I have 3 to pick :(
 

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in France, Honda Fury has been annouced for october.

price 15 000 euros :eek: (no ABS)

Harley Fat Bob 2010 : 15 500 euros

i dont understand why it s so expensive :mad:
 
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