My understanding is, you can do aftermarket pipes with out the commander as long as you have stock intake and leave the bafs in. Change either of those 2 and you need to do a commander.
I held off on getting my PCV for about a month after pipes, Wish i woulda started with that since i ended up getting one anyways and was running the bike lean for a period of time. With the PCV I ran with just the cobra map, then finally took the time to more accuratly tune it based on thermal properties of the bike (I had a few days off, and have the capibility of doing that) Im ordering an intake soon, and once installed w/ Pair valve removal sending to the dynoshop. Beyond that im not doing anymore engine work for a few years probably then doing the HP kit so wont need any modification to tuning for a while. If your patient though you could save up about 1500 and get everything done at same time (600ish pipes, 300 for intake, 250 for Fuel controler, and the rest for Dyno time and other Misc things that may come up)I like the Cobra swept pipes and C&C seat (called Chuck, may get the distressed brown leather solo). A Switch Blade quick detach windshield for the longer trips. I remember how brutal it got on the long hauls on my fatboy without a shield.
Depending on how loud you want w/ baffles, Id recommend hearing the cobra's (since you seem to like the look) and if its a bit quiet go with the Sampsons Street Sweepers
Anyway, I have a question for you mechanical motor head types. It sounds like that when I go to modifying the exhaust and intake, I need to remap/retune (whatever, the power commander or fuggin deally)....anyway, is that absolutely necessary? If so, at what point?
I would get a fuel controller when you start any mods, the bike is naturally tuned ralatively close to lean and when you start making any mods it runs pretty hot, causing fan to kick on more and pipes to blue easily. Either way if your going to do any engine mods your eventually going to need a fuel controller so if you start off with one when you do your first mod you can progressively tune it then get everything done and send it to an actual tuning shop to get final tune done. Currently Dynojet has maps for stock, and Just cobra Swept pipes, supposidly they have one for the Sampson street sweepers or hellraisers too but i cant find it on their site
I guess what I'm asking is........If I start out with the factory intake and just put on the Cobra pipes, will it run fine just like that? Seems like some of you experienced some popping and weird motor stuff when you changed pipes without doing the remapping, dunno; I may be way off.
You will have a little more popping then with a controller, the popping is mostly from the pair valve (you can use search function to learn about that)
please advise, I don't want to get a fury and be running it lean or something just to get a better sound from the motor.
Yar.... plus he's probably got a couple of beers in him atm, and tolerance goes down at that rate... anyways, FAQ away...I think he is referring to you as new due to the fact you are still in the single digits of posts.
would that be a nip slip?Breath in and breath out... now... envision the Fury, Envision the fury with her on it:
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Look, I was not singling you out. When you make a statement like you read this forum, then ask the question that you did, it appeared you didn't use the search button.one more thing Tony. What do you mean by "YOU NEW PEEPS"?
I used my search button and found absolutely no clarification. I have no idea what that means.