Now we're talking. This bike should cost bout the same as the vtx 1300. Visited the Honda of Hollywood (Los Angeles). Black Fury on the floor $14,999. (lol) The owner has 2 honda dealers and vry rarely neg - that's why i bought my vtx 1800 from the 'OTD' in inglewood, CA. All the other local Honda/Suzi/Kaw/Yami dealers hate this OTD shop .....i mean 'hate'. (lol) the sat I purchased the VTX...the OTD dealer moved more then 100 units....at rock bottom prices. 1 can only imagine the money they make in accessories.Bartlesvill Cycle Sports in Oklahoma 11,711.00 otd. pay 200 down and the bike is yours when it comes in. said he is goning to get a round 200 of them.