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It seems the dealer invoice price for these are 11,349. I paid 11,501++. The first dealer I went to wanted no less than 12,500. There are some mega-size dealers that are only charging invoice (see ebay), but they're not very convenient for me.
 

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i have two honda stealerships with in 20 miles of me and i had to travel 300 miles to get mine for $2000 less then anyone around here would sell it.
 
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