[NWLA_LE_Fury]

My biggest issue thus far w/my Fury is the extremely modest rev-limiter programming. Of course, I may have other issues with it but considering it has been in the shop since Thursday I'll have to wait to get it back to identify the others.

Cold start issues - replaced throttle body - did not resolve

 

[Hydroboy35th]

Can you explain your cold start issuses?, When I fired mine up yesterday it had this big lope almost like it had this big cam in it. But after it was warm it was idled fine.

P.S. welcome to the site!

 

[NWLA_LE_Fury]

When the bike is started (after sitting - cold start) it will rev up (like being choked) and then drop down to almost dying or it does die. If it doesn't die the bike will continue to increase rpm's and drop back down again. This up and down continues until I either take control of the throttle or until the bike warms up and then the idle is fine.

They replace the throttle body yesterday and that didn't fix the problem. Now they are checking the valves. Apparently, Honda has allowed G&C Honda (where I purchased the bike from) the ability to perform some R&D on the issue. Problem is, they are using my bike as their test-bed. Thanks Honda, maybe you guys should be paying me by the hour.

 

[rdkng88]

Mine idles very poorly when first started and you are right I think way to low on RPM when motor hits rev limiter. It does seem to be pretty quick much faster than my Harley.

 

[DeadSpider]

When the bike is started (after sitting - cold start) it will rev up (like being choked) and then drop down to almost dying or it does die. If it doesn't die the bike will continue to increase rpm's and drop back down again. This up and down continues until I either take control of the throttle or until the bike warms up and then the idle is fine.

They replace the throttle body yesterday and that didn't fix the problem. Now they are checking the valves. Apparently, Honda has allowed G&C Honda (where I purchased the bike from) the ability to perform some R&D on the issue. Problem is, they are using my bike as their test-bed. Thanks Honda, maybe you guys should be paying me by the hour.

My bike does that too :\ I just figured it was the electronic choke.... choking.

 

[motorv78]

rev-limiter

Hey guys,
I noticed this with my Fury as well. I wonder if the EFI is mapped correctly?
When I started mine yesterday it F#$%^%# died . I was worried that I had something wrong. Guess it is part of a bigger problem. Hope you get figured out for the rest of us, KEEP US POSTED ON YOU PROGRESS!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hydroboy35th]

I wonder if a intake and exhaust with a power commander on it will fix it?????,
the air and fuel ratio will be completly different then.

 

[Hydroboy35th]

I noticed the early rev-limiter also, But I just figured it was because I was coming off a sport bike and wasnt used to the not so high revving cruiser!

 

[Hydroboy35th]

My bike does that too :\ I just figured it was the electronic choke.... choking.

You may be on to something there!

 

[NWLA_LE_Fury]

Hydro,

I would think the same as compared to my 954, but I also own a 800 Intruder and hit 47-48 mph in 1st before the limiter kicks in. Even the certified Honda techs here estimate that the limiter is kicking in about 1.5-2k rpm's before it probably should.

I will let you guys know what happens. I'll be in Tampa this week, so they better have it running good by the time I get back.

 

[Cory]

When the bike is started (after sitting - cold start) it will rev up (like being choked) and then drop down to almost dying or it does die. If it doesn't die the bike will continue to increase rpm's and drop back down again. This up and down continues until I either take control of the throttle or until the bike warms up and then the idle is fine.

They replace the throttle body yesterday and that didn't fix the problem. Now they are checking the valves. Apparently, Honda has allowed G&C Honda (where I purchased the bike from) the ability to perform some R&D on the issue. Problem is, they are using my bike as their test-bed. Thanks Honda, maybe you guys should be paying me by the hour.

Sounds like a intake air temp sensor or coolant temp sensor problem. When it's cold it will idle like crap but runs fines when it's warm. I would most likely look at intake air temp sensor or coolant temp sensor for sure. In order for electronic choke to kick in it has to take temp reading from something in order to know if it needs to activate the choke or not. I'd look at those two for sure.

 

[vtx-fury23]

I will be watching this thread closely, as my bike is doing the same thing.. It starts up for a second, then nearly dies or does die...
Does anyone know if Honda is covering this under the warranty??

 

[ekd]

I will be watching this thread closely, as my bike is doing the same thing.. It starts up for a second, then nearly dies or does die...
Does anyone know if Honda is covering this under the warranty??

It looks as Im having the same problem as the rest og you. It has died 3 times on me.

 

[DeadSpider]

Forgive the sound and vid quality....

 

[rdkng88]

Just the nature of the animal !!

 

[vtx-fury23]

Forgive the sound and vid quality....

I thought that was my bike for a minute, but forgot mine is black.
Does the exact same thing though..

 

[Hydroboy35th]

I thought that was my bike for a minute, but forgot mine is black.
Does the exact same thing though..

Same here!

 

[Brandon]

Mine has died as well when cold started. I noticed that it would die if used the throttle just after a cold start. If allowed to idle for a brief amount of time it doesn't have any problems.

Quite frankly, I could give two craps. I've owned several ATVs and motorcycles. Many would occasionally die when cold started.

The bike runs flawlessly once warm so it isn't really a problem for me.

 

[SirGCal]

It's fuel linjected, stop burping the throttle while it's warming up. You'll notice it started, idled down, back up then leveled off until you burped the throttle. Besides, it's bad to rev a cold unloaded engine. Give it a minute.

Ohh but during my test ride, I also noticed the very low limiter... I wounder if that is due to some breakin system. A lot of cars today have them. It could easily be programmed into the bike's computer... <1000 miles, takes 2k off the rev limiter. Very possible but I'd think the dealers would know that. A lot of cars retard their timing and other stuff for the first x miles (500-1k). Once you go over that, and shut it off for a few minutes, (no power) then turn it back on, the system wakes up. Some performance cars are hindered quite a bit out of the box and only open up after then (and you thought test driving that new sports car was fun.. wait until after the breakin period...). Simply, it's possible... Not saying that's what it is... anyone have like 1500 miles or so on theirs yet?

 

[Cory]

It's fuel linjected, stop burping the throttle while it's warming up. You'll notice it started, idled down, back up then leveled off until you burped the throttle. Besides, it's bad to rev a cold unloaded engine. Give it a minute.

Ohh but during my test ride, I also noticed the very low limiter... I wounder if that is due to some breakin system. A lot of cars today have them. It could easily be programmed into the bike's computer... <1000 miles, takes 2k off the rev limiter. Very possible but I'd think the dealers would know that. A lot of cars retard their timing and other stuff for the first x miles (500-1k). Once you go over that, and shut it off for a few minutes, (no power) then turn it back on, the system wakes up. Some performance cars are hindered quite a bit out of the box and only open up after then (and you thought test driving that new sports car was fun.. wait until after the breakin period...). Simply, it's possible... Not saying that's what it is... anyone have like 1500 miles or so on theirs yet?

My 100 cu in. RevTech engine had the same type of rev-limiter for the first ten hours of break-in, then unlocked itself afterwards. Revtech even tells you so in there owners manual that it cuts the rpms from 5700 rpm to 4500 rpm for the first ten hours so I wouldn't worry about it for now. But for that sound I have the same thing too but that's for cold start ups. The motor is dumping a crap load of fuel in it to warm up and then when it gets warm it goes away. So when we rev it up when it's cold we add that much more fuel to it to the point that it's gonna or stalls. Cause if you smell it on a cold start up the smell of unburned gas is soo strong that it could almost knock you out. I wouldn't worry about it for now. But hey! I'm just looking at it from a car mechanics point of view! If it helps!