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I would like to create a thread for users to assist in choosing tires. It would be nice to know how many miles you got on the tire before you replaced it, why you replaced it (i.e. puncture, change size, sumo kit, worn out, etc.), brand of tire, size of tire, and what you replaced it with and why. No need to report on partially used tires that you haven't replaced yet as that won't tell the whole story.

I know many people have logged a lot of miles and have changed tires several times. Their tire experience would be a good real life review of what we can expect from the tires we purchase.

Example is as follows:

Tire Replaced - Dunlop E3 Rear 200/50R-18
Mileage when replaced - 13,340
Reason - Tire almost worn out and didn't want to replace during a long road trip
Replaced with - Metzeler Marathon ME88 200/50R-18
Reason for choosing new tire - Excellent traction and wear with Metzelers on
previous bike (1998 Shadow Spirit)

Tire Replaced - Dunlop E3 Front 90/90-21
Mileage when replaced - 13,340
Reason - Tire almost worn out and didn't want to replace during a long road trip
Replaced with - Metzeler Marathon ME88 90/90-21
Reason for choosing new tire - Excellent traction and wear with Metzelers on
previous bike (1998 Shadow Spirit)
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@Spud Thanks for your updates and thoughtful comments. From memory the Metzeler 880s have been discontinued in favour of the 888s. I have yet to wear out my 880s but I'll probably go for the 888s when I replace my tyres, unless I can find something that handles Sydney roads better. The factory Dunlops were good but they hated grooved and uneven roads compared to the Metzelers.
I went with the ME888's, got them from my Honda dealer. Even though one poster here found some google click-bait that said they were bad tires. They are not. I love mine. Our roads are pretty shit, motorcycle season coincides with road construction season.
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I went with the ME888's, got them from my Honda dealer. Even though one poster here found some google click-bait that said they were bad tires. They are not. I love mine. Our roads are pretty shit, motorcycle season coincides with road construction season.
Agree! It would seem from our experience that Metzelers are better handling less than ideal roads.
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@macxpert The grooves in Alaska were 4-5" wide running longitudinally down rhe road combined with a height difference of up to 6" on each side of the crack!

Apparently a symptom of permafrost heaves!

Crossing one of them meant almost certain death regardless of the tire!🤣

For the most part though, the highways are well maintained with damaged areas well marked.

The chip seal surface was a harsh substitute for smooth asphalt and reduce tire life considerably.

Trip of 9,000km will live in my memory as a hilite forever! Particularly the night I spent in Chicken, AK. The week in Anchorage with my wife divided the miles up nicely and we enjoyed trips on the Alaska Railroad to Seward and Whittier combined with a glacier tour.

Met many American friends there (no Furys though!) as well as many other countries including Isreal, Mexico and a Dutch cyclist on a pedal bike from Holland with a belt drive.

Most common bike (from what I saw) was the BMW GS's, lots of Harley’s, one Harley Pan American and lots of Adventure bikes of all flavors. Fury got lots of compliments as well as amazement seeing it in Alaska!

So Fury brothers and sisters ... get out (up) there! These bikes can do it all😀.

And for those concerned about fuel range: I had a Touratech 2 liter gas can and a Rotopax 1gallon can. I used the two liter Touratech once in Northern British Columbia and could have left the Rotopax at home and a suggestion would be to start with new tires. The 90/90-21 is available almost everywhere. The 200/50-18 not so much!
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@macxpert The grooves in Alaska were 4-5" wide running longitudinally down rhe road combined with a height difference of up to 6" on each side of the crack!

Apparently a symptom of permafrost heaves!

Crossing one of them meant almost certain death regardless of the tire!🤣

For the most part though, the highways are well maintained with damaged areas well marked.

The chip seal surface was a harsh substitute for smooth asphalt and reduce tire life considerably.

Trip of 9,000km will live in my memory as a hilite forever! Particularly the night I spent in Chicken, AK. The week in Anchorage with my wife divided the miles up nicely and we enjoyed trips on the Alaska Railroad to Seward and Whittier combined with a glacier tour.

Met many American friends there (no Furys though!) as well as many other countries including Isreal, Mexico and a Dutch cyclist on a pedal bike from Holland with a belt drive.

Most common bike (from what I saw) was the BMW GS's, lots of Harley’s, one Harley Pan American and lots of Adventure bikes of all flavors. Fury got lots of compliments as well as amazement seeing it in Alaska!

So Fury brothers and sisters ... get out (up) there! These bikes can do it all😀.

And for those concerned about fuel range: I had a Touratech 2 liter gas can and a Rotopax 1gallon can. I used the two liter Touratech once in Northern British Columbia and could have left the Rotopax at home and a suggestion would be to start with new tires. The 90/90-21 is available almost everywhere. The 200/50-18 not so much!
Sounds like quite the adventure. I hope to do some long riding trips when I retire. I don't think my wife could take days on end on the Fury so I think for those really long trips it will have to be a Goldwing or Indian Roadmaster. Previously I would not have considered the Roadmaster but Honda Australia only bring in the DCT Goldwing now and I prefer to shift myself so if I can't find a good used Goldwing then it will be the Roadmaster.
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Updated Stats July 25, 2022
New information italicized for ease of review and commentary added to bottom.

Back - 200/50R - 18
April 27, 2012 - 21,469km - replaced OEM with Metzeler ME880
September 28, 2012 - 32,822km - replaced Metzeler ME880 with Dunlop E3
June 12, 2014 - 50,564km - replaced Dunlop E3 with another Dunlop E3
March 29, 2016 - 72,730km - replaced Dunlop E3 with another Dunlop E3
May 30, 2017 - 87,060km - replaced Dunlop E3 with another Dunlop E3
August 2, 2018 - 107,134km - replaced Dunlop E3 with another Dunlop E3
July 8, 2019 - 0km - replaced Dunlop E3 with Dunlop Sportmax D423 (previous tire still fine, new one attached to a new 2017 Fury)
July 20, 2021 - 20,936km - replaced Dunlop Sportmax D423 with Metzeler ME888 Marathon Ultra
July 8, 2022 - 37,117km - replaced Metzeler ME888 Marathon Ultra with undersized Metzeler ME888 Marathon Ultra (180/55-18)

Front - 90/90 - 21
April 27, 2012 - 21,469km - replaced OEM with Metzeler ME880
July 8, 2013 - 44,703km - replaced Metzeler ME880 with Dunlop E3
May 26, 2015 - 60,720km - replaced Dunlop E3 with another Dunlop E3
August 12, 2016 - 82,741km - replaced Dunlop E3 with another Dunlop E3
August 2, 2018 - 107,134km - replaced Dunlop E3 with another Dunlop E3
July 8, 2019 - 0km - replaced Dunlop E3 with Dunlop D422F (previous tire still fine, new one attached to a new 2017 Fury)
June 15, 2021 - 15,585km - replaced Dunlop D422F with Metzeler ME888 Marathon Ultra
July 25, 2022 - 37,832km - Metzeler ME888 Marathon Ultra with Metzeler ME888 Marathon Ultra

Commentary:
Replaced the front Metzeler ME888 today at 22,247km. This is very good considering I ran 8,200km of those on the Alaskan chip seal highways that are notoriously hard on rubber. I only exceeded this with 23,234km on a Metzeler ME880 on my 2010 Fury back in 2013 and with 24,393km on a Dunlop E3 in 2018. I would have matched the km on the ME888 had my fuel pump not packed it in which would have added about 800km to the front tire. Aside from some cupping on the left side the ME888 wore extremely even right down to the tread wear bars and the only part that was past the tread wear bars was the cupped area.

If I could buy Dunlop E3's, I would go with them again both on the front and rear for longevity. Since I can't get them, the Metzeler ME888 are my rubber of choice as they are very good and likely handle and grip better than the Dunlop E3's.

Take care out there and mile up your Fury's. They are far more fun rolling than parked!
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July 8, 2022 - 37,117km - replaced Metzeler ME888 Marathon Ultra with undersized Metzeler ME888 Marathon Ultra (180/55-18)
Hey Spud! how's the 180 handle tight turns vs 200?
I went for my 2nd long ride yesterday since purchase, more back street tight turns, roundabouts, felt like the tyre was folding over itself, like it was flat, which it wasn't, unnerving, especially considering all the sand etc we have on our roads here.

I'm more into handling performance than looks, appears the Metzeler 888's are the way to go, just trying to decide on size.
Also - what size did you put on the front? (guessing its still 90/90-21)
Cheers!
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Hey Spud! how's the 180 handle tight turns vs 200?
I went for my 2nd long ride yesterday since purchase, more back street tight turns, roundabouts, felt like the tyre was folding over itself, like it was flat, which it wasn't, unnerving, especially considering all the sand etc we have on our roads here.

I'm more into handling performance than looks, appears the Metzeler 888's are the way to go, just trying to decide on size.
Also - what size did you put on the front? (guessing its still 90/90-21)
Cheers!
If you have the factory Dunlops you will notice a huge difference when you change to the Metzeler. Stick with the stock sizes and some good rubber and you'll be fine.
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Agreed… the 200 tire is near perfect for the bike.
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Hey Spud! how's the 180 handle tight turns vs 200?
I went for my 2nd long ride yesterday since purchase, more back street tight turns, roundabouts, felt like the tyre was folding over itself, like it was flat, which it wasn't, unnerving, especially considering all the sand etc we have on our roads here.

I'm more into handling performance than looks, appears the Metzeler 888's are the way to go, just trying to decide on size.
Also - what size did you put on the front? (guessing its still 90/90-21)
Cheers!
Follow the advice and stick with the 200. I only did the 180 because it was all they had. I haven't noticed any difference in performance but in my head I'm self-conscious about the skinny tire even though no one has noticed except me! And yes the front is still 90/90-21.
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Thanks Guys!
Concern regarding this simple, but for me 2nd most important component, after brakes, started out when I put my mate in hospital, after aquaplaning into a tree (reduced speed in rain of freeway, hit a pool of water), also writing off a HQ Premier Wagon (the Aussie boys know what that means).

When discussing tyres for the Fury with my pre-inspector, he told me 30psi, which I now discover appears to be wrong. So now I'm thinkn, what else was he potentially wrong about? 🤔
Less important, he was also pretty adamant about Pirelli's, that if I couldn't get them, Michelin, or wait until they can get either of them in for me (perhaps there better for sand?).
Which makes me question, then why did Honda put Dunlop's on (currently fitted), if they got that wrong, & so on...

So like many other newbies to the site, catching up on info many of you have been discussing for years, there's a lot of confusing threads/info to sort through, catch-up on.

As said, there seems to be a general consensus re Metzeler, especially by a fellow Aussie, with "similar" road conditions. However, WA is very sandy, vs mud/clay over east, plus, lots on building going on, unfortunately loose loads on trucks, spreading all sorts of fine stuff, especially on corners.

Hundreds of threads over the past ~12 years, sizing from 180 to 260 wide, plenty about wank factor, no definitive agreement by 3 or more people in any of them, about "handling".
The late Indian Larry always said the widest tyre he would use on the rear is 190 or 195 otherwise the handling suffers.
When I read that, prompted the curious Q to Spud about his 180.

So, unless there's a better tyre for sandy covered asphalt (can't see myself riding in rain, unless I get caught out), it appears 200/50R18 Metzeler's are the go?

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Thanks Guys!
Concern regarding this simple, but for me 2nd most important component, after brakes, started out when I put my mate in hospital, after aquaplaning into a tree (reduced speed in rain of freeway, hit a pool of water), also writing off a HQ Premier Wagon (the Aussie boys know what that means).

When discussing tyres for the Fury with my pre-inspector, he told me 30psi, which I now discover appears to be wrong. So now I'm thinkn, what else was he potentially wrong about? 🤔
Less important, he was also pretty adamant about Pirelli's, that if I couldn't get them, Michelin, or wait until they can get either of them in for me (perhaps there better for sand?).
Which makes me question, then why did Honda put Dunlop's on (currently fitted), if they got that wrong, & so on...

So like many other newbies to the site, catching up on info many of you have been discussing for years, there's a lot of confusing threads/info to sort through, catch-up on.

As said, there seems to be a general consensus re Metzeler, especially by a fellow Aussie, with "similar" road conditions. However, WA is very sandy, vs mud/clay over east, plus, lots on building going on, unfortunately loose loads on trucks, spreading all sorts of fine stuff, especially on corners.

Hundreds of threads over the past ~12 years, sizing from 180 to 260 wide, plenty about wank factor, no definitive agreement by 3 or more people in any of them, about "handling".

When I read that, prompted the curious Q to Spud about his 180.

So, unless there's a better tyre for sandy covered asphalt (can't see myself riding in rain, unless I get caught out), it appears 200/50R18 Metzeler's are the go?

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It was my local Honda dealer that suggested I switch to Metzeler as the compound works well for our uneven roads. Not forgetting the sudden deluge of rain that we often get in summer. The Metzelers are also better in the wet than the Dunlops. Probably a softer compound rubber will give you better grip on sand so if you can find something softer than the Metz then that might be a good option.

It's painful to see your wagon bashed up like that. An HQ is worth quite a bit these days.
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I have Pirelli Night Dragons on my bike and love them! Pops has Avon Cobras on his and they’re nice too. Just in case you wanted to give either of them a try.
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Still riding with factory Dunlops, guess I don't ride enough to wear out the OEM tires here in sunny, wet Florida!
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I can't believe the mileage you guys are getting! Pa roads must suck even worse than I thought.
Pa roads legendary suck
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PA roads waaaaay better than NYC roads
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PA roads waaaaay better than NYC roads
True that!
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Just got mine back this week with the new Metzlers. Third set of tires, at 20k miles
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