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I plan on doing the Tony mod and Tony can probably best answer this but anyone is welcome to chime in that has done his mod before. Do you have to disconnect the battery before you weld and will I have to reset the Fuggin fuel controller or will it save the settings if I pull the ground cable off the battery before I start welding. I do not want to mess up the electrical system hooking the ground up to weld.:confused:
 

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I would disconnect both positive and negative terminals on the battery. I don’t have that fuel controller but I would be very suppressed if you had to reprogram every time the battery went dead or changed
 

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Thanks my ole bud! I knew if you were logged on here a answer would come soon. New shop will be ready in about three weeks and then your mod begins.:D
 

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I plan on doing the Tony mod and Tony can probably best answer this but anyone is welcome to chime in that has done his mod before. Do you have to disconnect the battery before you weld and will I have to reset the Fuggin fuel controller or will it save the settings if I pull the ground cable off the battery before I start welding. I do not want to mess up the electrical system hooking the ground up to weld.:confused:
Great question that could be overlooked by many! Without a doubt make sure to disconnect the battery before welding!
 

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I would disconnect both positive and negative terminals on the battery. I don’t have that fuel controller but I would be very suppressed if you had to reprogram every time the battery went dead or changed
Being electrical and you are mechanical... No, you would not have to disconnect anything to make this happen HONESTLY...

But, seeing OSHA's side to everything (asshat's and moron's that sit at a desk), it would be wise to disconnect everything... NOT needed though as the way electricity works... You are grounded to the battery through the chassis (even with the rubber on the ground) , but it will not affect anything as all will flow through out the bike as needed to its respected ground. Seeing as I am starting to go semi blind because of all the welding I am around, I can say this is no factor, IMO...
 

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For all safety purposes, yes disconnect the battery. although in the years of experience I have had welding mowers, cars, trucks, whatever, now bikes. The biggest concern to an electrical system is accidentally energizing the electrical system by contacting the wires with the feed from welder. that's when meltdowns will occur. even with the battery disconnected and in the other room, your system will fry (not damage) but fry. I may be against the grain but I don't disconnect the battery. I clear area to be welded of wiring and/or cover in leather any electrical possibly nearby
 

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Being electrical and you are mechanical... No, you would not have to disconnect anything to make this happen HONESTLY...

But, seeing OSHA's side to everything (asshat's and moron's that sit at a desk), it would be wise to disconnect everything... NOT needed though as the way electricity works... You are grounded to the battery through the chassis (even with the rubber on the ground) , but it will not affect anything as all will flow through out the bike as needed to its respected ground. Seeing as I am starting to go semi blind because of all the welding I am around, I can say this is no factor, IMO...
Hey RSS!!!! OSHA are nice asshat's and morons, the keep are butts safe with stupid rules and dumbass regulations. These dipnords save lives every day by pissing us off so we leave the job before we knock thier dicks in the dirt. so ease up!!!:D
 

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Hey RSS!!!! OSHA are nice asshat's and morons, the keep are butts safe with stupid rules and dumbass regulations. These dipnords save lives every day by pissing us off so we leave the job before we knock thier dicks in the dirt. so ease up!!!:D
Okay, I totally understand why you are getting at... But, do you actually look at some of the things that they regulate or do you follow their word every step of the way? These are pencil pushers that look at accident reports and "suggest" the best way to do things...

I understand the "safety value of things as I have to look after 20 or so people everyday", but I work in an industrial environment so I totally HEED their word everyday that I work... But if you look at my initial statement... Most of them do not leave their desk's to do what you or me does and honestly, THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND that some of the things that they "regulate", absolutely do not make sense in any sense of the word...

That is what I am saying... so WHERE is your argument after understanding what I am saying?

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even with the battery disconnected and in the other room, your system will fry (not damage) but fry. I may be against the grain but I don't disconnect the battery.

to understand that... understand the laws which you are attesting to...

GROUND THE BIKE after you get done with it...

You have to understand a charge is a charge, and will remain in the chassis even when you take out the battery. The battery will actually help "ground" out that "charge" you are talking about... As you were stating, you don't disconnect the ground or the battery... But, if you understand that "grounding" things out will solve this issue, that will help in the long run...

My saying "Ground the bastard" when you are grinding or welding to it...."

Do you actually understand that the charge comes from the "ground" or a negative flowing into the positive"... This may help in your understanding of the issue of why you can totally disconnect your battery and still screw up your system... Understand that while your battery is in the other room that the positive neutrons are building up with no where to go... (your tires suppress the neutrons)... So, grounding out the chassis will help with what you are saying...

So, do you think that OSHA understands the laws of OHM or the laws of physics...? Probably not, again... pencil pushers...

 

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Okay, I totally understand why you are getting at... But, do you actually look at some of the things that they regulate or do you follow their word every step of the way? These are pencil pushers that look at accident reports and "suggest" the best way to do things...

I understand the "safety value of things as I have to look after 20 or so people everyday", but I work in an industrial environment so I totally HEED their word everyday that I work... But if you look at my initial statement... Most of them do not leave their desk's to do what you or me does and honestly, THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND that some of the things that they "regulate", absolutely do not make sense in any sense of the word...

That is what I am saying... so WHERE is your argument after understanding what I am saying?

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"even with the battery disconnected and in the other room, your system will fry (not damage) but fry. I may be against the grain but I don't disconnect the battery"

to understand that... understand the laws which you are attesting to...
jk RSS just venting also. construction sites are my playground, a 37 story J.W. Marriot in Indianapolis right now. OHSA(assshats) are everywhere. Do I follow their rules??? yes, (when they are watching):eek: there is a gray/grey area to work in and occasionally you get and OSHA (moron) who understands and doesn't carry a fine sheet
 

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This grounding thing is going the wrong way, I do understand RSS. I just chiming in so no one freaks out if someone doesn't disconnect bat. In our earlier convo about my experience I didn't list my associates degree in applied sciences or the 2 years of electrical courses. So Yes we are on the same page with grounding and that ..... OSHA be asshats
 

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jk RSS just venting also. construction sites are my playground, a 37 story J.W. Marriot in Indianapolis right now. OHSA(assshats) are everywhere. Do I follow their rules??? yes, (when they are watching):eek: there is a gray/grey area to work in and occasionally you get and OSHA (moron) who understands and doesn't carry a fine sheet
Read my whole statement ( I changed it bout 5 times after I read your statement) , but I see what you are getting at... We don't always follow the rules, but we understand that they are there for safety, right...?

Sure, there are those "OSHA guys" that don't understand ANYTHING, but then there are those that do and understand (you can ask anybody in the electrical business) that things aren't totally understood, no matter how much education that they have.

So I will degress and say yes, it is totally fine to do the "Tony Mod" with the battery and everything in tact, but... "GROUND OUT THE BIKE" when done. Does that help the situation any... before starting the bike, Ground the bastard out...
 

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This grounding thing is going the wrong way, I do understand RSS. I just chiming in so no one freaks out if someone doesn't disconnect bat. In our earlier convo about my experience I didn't list my associates degree in applied sciences or the 2 years of electrical courses. So Yes we are on the same page with grounding and that ..... OSHA be asshats
Lol... like your reason's for editing... that is funny as hell... :p
 

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.........Do you actually understand that the charge comes from the "ground" or a negative flowing into the positive"... This may help in your understanding of the issue of why you can totally disconnect your battery and still screw up your system... Understand that while your battery is in the other room that the positive neutrons are building up with no where to go... (your tires suppress the neutrons)... So, grounding out the chassis will help with what you are saying...
"Positive neutrons"??? There ain't no such animal! Someone needs to drag out his basic Physics text and look up "Neutrons". Neutrons have no charge (mass yes, charge no) and play no part whatsoever in electrical conductivity. Protons have charge, and electrons have charge, but neutrons are, in all cases, electrically neutral (thats why they call them neutrons). Electrical current is brought about by the flow of electrons (and ONLY electrons), which are attempting to re-establish a balance of electromotive potential, and the flow is always from negative potential to positive. Look it up.

Oh, and, "your tires suppress the neutrons"; I don't even want to go into that one! Whatever you're smokin', you need to get a new supplier.

Cheers
 

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Well The Way I Figure, All You Educated Guys With All Your Degrees Can't Agree On Nut-tin! Nut-tin! Nut-tin! At Least, I Did Not Have To Go To College To Be Confused!:confused:
LOL. I can't, at the moment, remember who said it (CRS disease!), but I believe I'm quoting correctly: "It is the imperative of education to replace cocksure ignorance with thoughtful uncertainty".

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"Positive neutrons"??? There ain't no such animal! Someone needs to drag out his basic Physics text and look up "Neutrons". Neutrons have no charge (mass yes, charge no) and play no part whatsoever in electrical conductivity. Protons have charge, and electrons have charge, but neutrons are, in all cases, electrically neutral (thats why they call them neutrons). Electrical current is brought about by the flow of electrons (and ONLY electrons), which are attempting to re-establish a balance of electromotive potential, and the flow is always from negative potential to positive. Look it up.

Oh, and, "your tires suppress the neutrons"; I don't even want to go into that one! Whatever you're smokin', you need to get a new supplier.

Cheers
LOL them there be awful dang big werds fer the danged ol carpenter. This 36 story hotel will stand, but dont think the light will go to the top
 

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Well, I Looked It Up, Quote- CRS Disease-- Symptom--Can't Remember Shit!:eek:

PS Those Guys Should Become Lifetime Members, It Comes With More Memory!
LOL again!!!! Ever heard of the (ID10t error)???
 
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