Where are the dyno sheets?
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The MSO at my dealer has them listed at 39hp at the rear wheel....the salespeople say it's not neccessary to tell the customers and just tell them it's 1300 and that's enough.
I'm hoping others can show some dyno slips besides the only one from S&S.
I'm hoping others can show some dyno slips besides the only one from S&S.
OK, here's the scoop. My dealer said 39hp so I went back and asked to confirm his statement by me actually seeing this MSO document from Honda. Well, he agreed to show me.....What I saw floored me! It had 52hp at the crank listed....but only "37hp at the R/Wheel"
NO KIDDING!
I left in amazement! Honda had a VTX 1300 listed at 44hp at R/Wheel on one of thier VTX's but I didn't ask what year maybe a 07-08 model.
Edited to add:
Don't bother getting the dyno sheet to post here..... I know the numbers now.
Now the other question it brings up is...how did S&S pull their numbers? Hmmmmm?
NO KIDDING!
I left in amazement! Honda had a VTX 1300 listed at 44hp at R/Wheel on one of thier VTX's but I didn't ask what year maybe a 07-08 model.
Edited to add:
Don't bother getting the dyno sheet to post here..... I know the numbers now.
Now the other question it brings up is...how did S&S pull their numbers? Hmmmmm?
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All I can tell you is that it's the stoutest 37 rwhp I've ever sat on then. I'm calling bullsh!t though, superflow dyno numbers show around 55 rwhp.
My Vmax which is 145hp on spec has 110 to 120hp on rear wheel it also employs the sturdy shaft drive. the shaft on a motorcycle is a hp robber at the tire! The VMAX has same issue...I still love my VMAX for raw power nothing compares. Its just not as comfy and now where near as cool as my Fury...
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at what RPM?
I'm guessing 2500! The only other explanation I can see for mfg down rating would be a tax, insurance or license rating to set fees in other world markets.
55hp? no seriously?
I saw the 52hp crankshaft rating on the MSO.
BUT 37hp is what they rated getting to the ground....no kidding!
I don't know how other dyno's rate their bikes...I do know some dyno operators set-up the dyno differently and therefore get different numbers.
I'm just curious what others have been saying versus what Honda says.
I saw the 52hp crankshaft rating on the MSO.
BUT 37hp is what they rated getting to the ground....no kidding!
I don't know how other dyno's rate their bikes...I do know some dyno operators set-up the dyno differently and therefore get different numbers.
I'm just curious what others have been saying versus what Honda says.
Yea I know what you mean...my stock VMax makes 197.5hp at the crank(well it used too) and it shows only 175hp at the wheel. It know makes about 205hp now, but won't check the dyno numbers until later since I'm putting an X-pipe on which should boost it to maybe 210-215hp AT the CRANK.
My Raider makes 97hp crankshaft as stated in it's MSO from Star, and only dynos 83ish on our shop dyno.
I'm just curious that's all!
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You said "our" shop dyno? Hell strap one on and put it to it!
That sounds like a good plan, but the dealership in my town has only sold one Fury and the other two still on the floor cannot be run since they are new. The Dyno in the shop isn't used much except for the yearly Dyno shootout. Next April is the next Shootout so maybe I can get my friend to put his on there then.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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How about Motorcyclist Magazines test ratings; Honda Tech Specifications - Motorcyclist Magazine
which seem to jive with the other dyno test, and the south african honda website (which i think i read about on this site) ratings of 74Hp and 97Ft/lbs at the crank.
my question to you, sfc rick, is what's your purpose here?
in your other posts, you've stated you would never buy a fury, and you seem to only be interested in bashing on the fury, and tellings us how cool your yamaha "high end" bikes are.
so if you don't own a fury, and have nothing positive to contribute, why don't you go to a yamaha forum and talk about yamaha's?
i'd like to see a copy of the alledged MSO that states the fury has 52Hp at the crank. honda states on it's website that it doesn't publish these numbers. Frequently Asked Questions: Products - Honda Powersports is honda lying?
in any case, a quick check with a 1/4 mile horsepower calculator will reveal that it takes a lot more than 37Hp to move this bike and rider through the traps at 95.3MPH.
this bike wasn't intended to be a power cruiser, and there is little point in comparing it to one, so get off it. it's got more than enough power to cruise up and down the strip and draw all the attention away from your raider
Get off it buddy...Cycleworld does the comparison so no need to hide behind mommas skirt here. I work on all sorts of bikes and never said I wouldn't buy a Fury...nor have I put them down.....seems like you might be a bit nervous?How about Motorcyclist Magazines test ratings; Honda Tech Specifications - Motorcyclist Magazine
which seem to jive with the other dyno test, and the south african honda website (which i think i read about on this site) ratings of 74Hp and 97Ft/lbs at the crank.
my question to you, sfc rick, is what's your purpose here?
in your other posts, you've stated you would never buy a fury, and you seem to only be interested in bashing on the fury, and tellings us how cool your yamaha "high end" bikes are.
so if you don't own a fury, and have nothing positive to contribute, why don't you go to a yamaha forum and talk about yamaha's?
i'd like to see a copy of the alledged MSO that states the fury has 52Hp at the crank. honda states on it's website that it doesn't publish these numbers. Frequently Asked Questions: Products - Honda Powersports is honda lying?
in any case, a quick check with a 1/4 mile horsepower calculator will reveal that it takes a lot more than 37Hp to move this bike and rider through the traps at 95.3MPH.
this bike wasn't intended to be a power cruiser, and there is little point in comparing it to one, so get off it. it's got more than enough power to cruise up and down the strip and draw all the attention away from your raider
I love the looks and have a friend who likes his...BUT if you can't discuss performance issues in a performance forum section maybe you should fiind another forum.
I see a performance section and ask performance issues, and certainly hope to find out what others have done and how they did it, cause I have this friend who has me work on his bike!
Honda states the numbers on the MSO...they don't make them up and no one guesses and fills in the blank on the MSO. Tough nuts if you don't like it, it's just the way it is.
Yea my Raider certainly has trouble getting looks....big joke!
Oh let me edit to add: I design aftermarket parts for bikes around the world and have successful items sold and used in custom bikes around the globe. I have curious questions about bikes and feel like I can get answers from bike owners.
I apologize if it really bothers some.....but in every bike forum on the planet there are performance sections where these issues are posted to death. It's the reason most are successful in sharing information on bikes and what makes them tick, and what makes them tick FASTER!
I brought a valid point to light and wouldn't have thought any better place to air it out THAN HERE!
So let's see how you get the numbers up?
I brought a valid point to light and wouldn't have thought any better place to air it out THAN HERE!
So let's see how you get the numbers up?
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I'm not bothered, and I won't resort to childish tactics. If you had started this thread with the last line of your last post, I wouldn't have said anything.
But when you make statements like this;
And then you start a thread about the horsepower, make 7 of the initial 11 posts, ignore the data published by respectable sources, purport that this Honda MSO, which apparently only you are aware of, states that the rear wheel horsepower is some absurdly low number that simple logic (or a 1/4 mile horsepower calcualtion) should tell you is not possible, tell us not to bother posting any dyno sheets because YOU already know the truth,... you can't expect that someone isn't going to doubt your intentions. Sorry.
Besides all that, exactly what issue are you bringing to light? The dyno sheet has been published and at least two major magazines have substantiated it. I haven't heard anyone that actually owns a Fury complain that it doesn't have enough power. Do you think 37, or 57, or whatever rear wheel horsepower isn't enough to push around your aftermarket parts? The bike has enough power to need to be LIMITED to 100MPH. That's enough power to land you jail if you're lucky, or kill you if you're not.
That said, I'm also interested in hearing about performance mods and their effect on power, so stop telling me things I can refute with fact, and start telling me things I can use on my Fury!
Peace.
But when you make statements like this;
(Which, in case you aren't aware, are backhanded compliments, and are the equivalent of me saying "That's a nice Raider you have there, if you like Yamahas and garish paint jobs".)
And then you start a thread about the horsepower, make 7 of the initial 11 posts, ignore the data published by respectable sources, purport that this Honda MSO, which apparently only you are aware of, states that the rear wheel horsepower is some absurdly low number that simple logic (or a 1/4 mile horsepower calcualtion) should tell you is not possible, tell us not to bother posting any dyno sheets because YOU already know the truth,... you can't expect that someone isn't going to doubt your intentions. Sorry.
Besides all that, exactly what issue are you bringing to light? The dyno sheet has been published and at least two major magazines have substantiated it. I haven't heard anyone that actually owns a Fury complain that it doesn't have enough power. Do you think 37, or 57, or whatever rear wheel horsepower isn't enough to push around your aftermarket parts? The bike has enough power to need to be LIMITED to 100MPH. That's enough power to land you jail if you're lucky, or kill you if you're not.
That said, I'm also interested in hearing about performance mods and their effect on power, so stop telling me things I can refute with fact, and start telling me things I can use on my Fury!
Peace.
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I agree, you did start this as some sort of bash whether you meant to or or not, I wondered myself what was up with the "I have the numbers so don't bother posting" comment. Your Yamaha is nice, but I personally wouldn't have it over my fury. If you are what you say you are, you sure don't act like it.
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